In article >,
usual suspect > wrote:

> Twink Ron wrote:
> > In article et>,
> > Rudy Canoza > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Ron wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>In article . net>,
> >>> Rudy Canoza > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ron wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>In article >,
> >>>>>usual suspect > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Twink Ron wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>This ignores the fact that animals die in the course of "vegan"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>food
> >>>>>>>>>>>>production, too. Those deaths -- through poisoning, mutilation,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>drowning, predation, etc. -- are significantly more "cruel" than
> >>>>>>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>humane slaughter which they object.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Killed, of course, by meat eaters.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>You mean by meat-eating farmers hired by urbanite vegans to produce
> >>>>>>>>>>food
> >>>>>>>>>>at the lowest possible price rather than the most peculiar set of
> >>>>>>>>>>pseudo-ethics. Vegans are hypocritical scumbags, and so are you for
> >>>>>>>>>>so
> >>>>>>>>>>feebly attempting to defend them.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Scumbag? *hand goes to forehead in shock and horror*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Drama queen.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>*bats eye lashes in flattered state*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>It's not flattery. Well, not to normal people.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>I find you evasive.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Pot calling the kettle black. You write I'm evasive, while others
> >>>>>>>>have
> >>>>>>>>written extensively that I'm too blunt.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Blunt, as in being rude and abusive is different than evasive, as in
> >>>>>>>elaborating on any point further than ....well, you know the drill.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Some consider the elaborating to be rude and abusive: the truth hurts.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Please clarify what ethical or moral code that any
> >>>>>>>>>vegan is violating.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Easy: *their own*.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I'll clarify,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>You're not clarifying, Twink, you're trying to evade the issue. Vegans
> >>>>>>prate about their high standards and then have a perverse indifference
> >>>>>>to the net results of their diet. Their standard is not causing animal
> >>>>>>suffering and death. The *results* of their lifestyles are filled with
> >>>>>>animal suffering and death. They have other options available to them
> >>>>>>to
> >>>>>>minimize animal suffering and death, but they're content to make
> >>>>>>meaningless gestures, such as their irrational obsessions about animal
> >>>>>>parts.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>what is the moral principle that you believe the vegan is
> >>>>>>>violating when you state that they are not following their own moral
> >>>>>>>code.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>It's a peculiar one of their own design, applied with tremendous
> >>>>>>amounts
> >>>>>>of hypocrisy and sanctimony.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Is this the platinum rule, the golden, or some other unnamed moral
> >>>>>>>code?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>It's an oxymoron called "vegan ethics."
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Oh, if only it were true that vegans believed as you did that they are
> >>>>>some hom responsible for the actions and outcomes of others.
> >>>>
> >>>>He doesn't believe that "vegans" are responsible for
> >>>>the actions of other. He believes, quite rightly, that
> >>>>they share in responsibility for the deaths of animals
> >>>>that are caused to produced the food they eat.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>What principle causes shared responsibility for another's actions.
> >>
> >>Get it right first - learn to read first - and you
> >>might get a better response. No one is positing
> >>"shared responsibility" for another's ACTIONS. Reread
> >>it, dummy.
> >
> >
> > I limit my exposure to abusive individuals.
>
> No you don't, freak.

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