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Rudy Canoza
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> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:34:35 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
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> > wrote
> >> "Dutch" > wrote:
> >
> >> Real pigs are not capable of any of the things required to
make
> >> The Logic of the Talking Pig anything other than a fantasy about
> >> a talking pig. [..]
> >
> >Bullshit. The same first-person device could be used to express how
infant
> >children ought to be treated.
> >
> >"You should cuddle me why I cry. You should change my diapers when
they are
> >dirty. You should feed me when I'm hungry. You should love me
> >unconditionally."
> >
> >That doesn't mean babies can talk or form those thoughts, it's way
of
> >communicating moral attitudes, not a fantasy about a talking baby.
>
> If you're presenting a fantasy
He isn't.
>
> >You're too stupid for words.
> >
> >[..]
> >
> >> >"Death" is not a moral issue, neither is "life", per se, the
issue is to
> >> >raise in captivity or not,
> >>
> >> How do you do that without considering the animals' lives?
> >
> >Just do it, the animals' lives per se are immaterial to the
evaluation.
>
> That's true for you because you are incredibly inconsiderate.
No. He is considerate where moral consideration is due.
> >> Your main objective is to maintain the false belief that no
farm
> >> animals benefit from farming,
That is not a false belief. It is a FACT. No farm animals benefit
from coming into existence.
> >
> >If by that you mean "The Logic of the Larder" then yes.
>
> Each year billions of animals experience life only because humans
> raise them for food.
Their lives are not something for which you can claim any moral credit,
much as you'd like to.
>
> >> >I am proposing that
> >> >we ADVOCATE the breeding of domestic animals by using rational
argument,
> >>
> >> You are obsessively insisting that people do NOT consider the
> >> animals themselves.
> >
> >If by that you mean "The Logic of the Larder" then yes.
>
> Real pigs
"Giving life" to real pigs may not validly be offered as moral
justification for subsequently killing the pigs.
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