"Ron" > wrote in message
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> In article . net>,
> "rick etter" > wrote:
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>> "Ron" > wrote in message
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>> > In article . net>,
>> > "rick etter" > wrote:
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>> >> "Ron" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > In article >, "Dutch"
>> >> > >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Reynard" > wrote
>> >> >> > They are doing exactly what they say they're doing: abstaining
>> >> >> > from meat, so stop pushing it onto them, pusher.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's not about "pushing meat", it's about reminding vegans that
>> >> >> their
>> >> >> diets
>> >> >> are not bloodless.
>> >> >
>> >> > Unfortunately, arguments such as the one that Dutch makes assumes a
>> >> > degree of responsibility for the actions of others that defies any
>> >> > logical rationalization.
>> >> =====================
>> >> No, it defies your retardation, idiot. That you can't understand that
>> >> any
>> >> action that you take, that you know causes the exact result you claim
>> >> to
>> >> be
>> >> avoiding and makes you culpable, is quite amusing.
>> >
>> > I stated my culpability. I am participating in allowing killers to kill
>> > animals to provide safety and security to those who must live in
>> > proximity to people who are thrive on bloodlust and the infliction of
>> > pain, suffering and death. Like paedophilia, there is no known cure for
>> > individuals who delight in the killing of animals. I choose it as a
>> > 'lesser of two evils'. I am fully aware of what I do and why I do it.
>> >
>> > I eat meat several days each week to ensure that there is an ample
>> > requirement for meat products as the meat killers are unwilling to
>> > accept responsibility for their actions against animals. Like most
>> > treatment and cure, until they can respond to their denial I must
>> > moderate my choices. Since, I do know they are unwilling to accept
>> > responsibility, I make my choices.
>> ================
>> Total lack of intellegent response noted. Total display of ignorance
>> shown, yet again. Tell us again how yyou have determined that vegan
>> food
>> producers have all somehow become physco-paths, mr freud.
>
> Vegan food producers are rarely involved in killing.
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Hey fool, you made the generalization that all food growers are meat-eating
killers on the prowl. Don't blame me for your stupidity, idiot.

Food producers
> (meat eating) producing food for vegans can and are involved in the
> killing of animals. Killing animals en masse to grow a few fields is the
> act of someone who is quite fine with killing.
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Imagine that, same way that vegan growers have to produce their crops....

Now would you like to
> mention a few vegan farmers who are producing. Or will you continue to
> make generalizations out of desperation.
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LOL It's you that has been free with the generalization, pansy-boy.

>
> Psychopaths? Well, I'm relying on your information here. Someone who is
> willing to kill rodents, amphibians, birds etc. and en masse isn't
> exactly stable in my view.
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And the person that pays them to do this just so that their food is clean,
cheap, and convenient is?

To delight in the destruction of those
> animals and to that degree is obviously by someone who doesn't value
> animals.
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That woyuld be you, fool. You have other choices, yet yiou prefer to cause
that aninmal death and suffering for your selfish reasons. Or, maybe you
just like the idea of all that blood and guts, eh mr freud?


Of course, killing amphibians to grow rice isn't really killing
> an animal for food now, is it?
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Really? Why not? The animals is just as dead, and there is now food on
your plate.

>
>> >> > I admire vegans in that they do seem to be able to live up to their
>> >> > ethical values. Vegans are certainly better than I am.
>> >> ================
>> >> LOL ANy body is, fool
>> >
>> > Have you considered raising livestock? Your level of aggression that
>> > you
>> > display towards humans might be better served killing animals.
>> =====================
>> Really? What animals are rasised for food for vegans, idiot?
>
> Do pay attention and stay on track. That you willfully ignore what Dutch
> has written to further your opportunities for public abusive behaviour
> makes you a prime candidate to raise livestock.
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Show me where I responded to a part with dutch ralking about livestock. All
you have is a desire to change the subject suddenly. Why is that pansy-boy?


I hope there aren't
> weaker humans in your presence. Yikes, if a child or weaker individual
> might disagree with you and do so in person.
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And that would be what, mr freud?


>
> As you can see, violence is the nature of the beast. Some of us are able
> to contain our emotions and moderate out actions and others....
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Obviously you can't, because you continue to cause as much animals death and
suffering as you can. Tell us why you like to kill by proxy, mr freud.


>
>> >> They can live
>> >> > their daily lives without having to kill.
>> >> ==================
>> >> What have you or I killed today? Personally I don't kill anything
>> >> myself,
>> >> so I guess to you I'm just as pure as a vegan, eh dolt?
>> >
>> > That would be correct. You and I are only responsible for our actions.
>> > Neither of us killed anything today and neither did any vegan that I've
>> > spoken with tody.
>> =====================
>> Yes, we are responsible for our actions. That your are trying to weasel
>> your way out still doesn't work, fool. You knowing take actionas that
>> result in animal deaths, you are culpable.
>
> What actions do I take? I think you might fit into the pathology that I
> was mentioning earlier. Walk to store -- nothing dies. Plan menu en
> route -- nothing dies. Walk through store -- nothing dies. Buy
> ingredients -- nothing dies. Take out money -- nothing dies. Go home --
> nothing dies. Eat my meal -- nothing dies.
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Except that you are brain-dead, fool.


>
> Please define my actions of killing? What weapon did I use?
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Your lifestyle, pansy-boy...

>
>> > If you "feel" guilty, I suspect that is your difficulty and has nothing
>> > to do with the fact that neither of killed an animal today.
>> ======================
>> And it still doesn't absolve either of us from the fact that animals died
>> as
>> a direct result of our *actions*. Kepp up the good work displaying your
>> ignorance, pansy-boy.
>
> As a result of my actions? There you go put forth foolish arguments.
> It's like the rapist who claims, "she made me do it". I now control you.
> Anything you do is my fault. You are powerless to resist my every whim.
> You must respond. You have no will, desire or control over your own
> behaviour.
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LOL Tell us why, mr freud.