In article . net>,
"rick etter" > wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > Derek > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:52:14 -0500, Ron > wrote:
> >> > "rick etter" > wrote:
> >> >> "Ron" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> [..]
> >> >> > I'm glad that you are venting your hostility and aggression on a
> >> >> > keyboard and not on some unsuspecting person near to you. I hope
> >> >> > there
> >> >> > aren't children in your vicinity.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The vegan can't be responsible for their action, just as the farmer
> >> >> > can't be responsible for their own action. Your theory thus far has
> >> >> > made
> >> >> > that clear. The farmer can't control their actions, they are
> >> >> > powerless
> >> >> > before me. One word from me and they must kill. I command them. They
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > my slaves. I throw in the promise of a few bucks and my minions
> >> >> > respond.
> >> >> ===============
> >> >> Lack of any logical response noted, fool. Keep up the good work
> >> >> proving
> >> >> your ignorance and stupidity....
> >> >
> >> >Ah, rick! Hello! It is you that didn't respond. You have argued that the
> >> >killers of animals are not responsible and that the consumer is
> >> >responsible. I asked then, who is responsible for the consumer's
> >> >actions? How can you logically state that one is responsible for the
> >> >other, but not vice versa.
> >> >
> >> >I'm sorry you're looking foolish, rick. But this is the outcome of the
> >> >beliefs that you are advocating here in your attempt to make vegans look
> >> >bad.
> >>
> >> Rick, like all the other buck-passers here insists that
> >> the vegan must falsely take on the responsibility for
> >> the wrong actions of others, thereby enabling those
> >> wrong actions to continue and to make themselves
> >> fellow enablers of those wrong actions. In my view,
> >> his argument aims to recruit vegan apologists and
> >> enablers so he can then go on to insist that they are
> >> showing a contempt for the rights of animals when
> >> buying vegetables.
> >
> > You've known him longer than I have. I have my own observations about
> > his style and methods. We'll see how the discussion goes.
> ================
> LOL What discussion? You can't keep from lying, and cannot even keep track
> of the respones that are being made, fool.

The discussion above seems to be about responsibility and misplaced
responsibility. Yet, I find nothing in your comments related to the
issue of responsibility.

Please clarify. Are you in agreement with Dutch and usual that I am
responsible for the killing that others do, or not?