"John Deere" > wrote
[..]

> Dutch wrote:
>
>> > FWIW, I think there should not be any stigma attached
>> > to people who couldn't stick with a veg*n diet
>> > due to lack of will. When people are raised on
>> > meat in every meal, just the effort they made
>> > once does deserve some praise.
>>
>> I guess that makes you some kind of saint then.. typical vegan
>> self-flattery.
>
> Well, I don't need to flatter myself or hear kudos from
> others.

I don't believe you, I think you have a desperate need to flatter yourself.

> I *know* that I happen to have decent willpower.

There you go..

> I also realize that others may not have it, for
> whatever reasons.

And a little moral relativity as a kicker..

> I am simply speculating that the original decision
> to go veg*n, in both cases, may have been equally
> moral.

The decision may have originated in a genuine empathy towards animals, or it
may have originated in a desire to become a member of an exclusive club, you
don't know. What is clear is that it inevitably results in the vegan having
an inflated, flattering view of themselves in the scheme of things.

> Lack of willpower and strength doesn't reduce
> the goodwill displayed by the original decision.

In fact, in matters of morality it is always the actions, the end result
that matters, not good intentions.

I repeat, it's not at all surprising that you choose to view the very
*intent* to follow veganism as admirable, since doing so reflects so very
well on your own self-image. Veganism is above all about
self-aggrandizement.