In article >, "Dutch" >
wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article t>,
> > Rudy Canoza > wrote:
> >
> >> Ron wrote:
> >>
> >> > In article >, "Dutch" >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>"Ron" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >>
> >> >>>In article >, "Dutch"
> >> >
> >> >>>wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>That can be refuted by observing animal behaviour, and the massive
> >> >>>>release
> >> >>>>of fight-or-flight chemicals when an animal is threatened.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Yup. It's called fear and anxiety. Fear and anxiety can be experienced
> >> >>>in perceived threats as well as real ones. Check the stock market at
> >> >>>how
> >> >>>well the pharmaceutical companies are doing on the remedies to these
> >> >>>emotions.
> >> >>
> >> >>Do you have a salient point here? Perhaps there is no such thing as a
> >> >>real
> >> >>threat?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I made the point.
> >>
> >> It was horseshit.
> >>
> >> > "feeling" threatened (being afraid and anxious) is
> >> > different than actually being threatened.
> >>
> >> Irrelevant. We're only talking about actual
> >> situations, not merely one's feelings about them. If
> >> the watch is stolen and you believe it to be stolen, or
> >> have good reason to think it may be, then you are
> >> complicit in crime by buying it.
> >
> > Been there, done that.
>
> You buy stolen property?
>
> > If I lie to you and tell you the watch stolen then, it is JUST a feeling.
>
> If the watch is not stolen then there is nothing wrong to be complicit in.
> The feeling of apprehension that was caused by your ruse does not mean
> anything, morally, except it was a shitty juvenile trick.

A prank that nonetheless demonstrate that the feelings of "guilt" or
"wrongdoing" are only just feelings. If I did that play that trick, I
could allow you to feel guilt endlessly. And the "truth" of the matter
is that it wouldn't be stolen. The feelings would be experienced as
"real", but the guilt would be false. I could allow you to feel like a
bad person. I could even allow you to think that you might have a
problem with the authorities and allow your apprehension to increase 10
fold. Of course, the authorities don't get involved in non-stolen
watches that I might sell to you.

IOW, the emotion of wrongdoing is a theoretical construction of the mind
that is created based on morality which is another theoretical
construction of the mind.