On Sat 22 Jan 2005 01:09:17a, zuuum called across the abyss...

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> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I swear, I don't know how you ppl do it. This CA wimp is driven back
>>indoors by
>> by a windy 43 deg F morning. I can't even imagine cold that can do this:
>>
>> http://newscenter.ninn.org/modules.p...ticle&sid=8114
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>> Sure, we get a lot of snow in the Sierra's and we have our share of
>> incidents (Donner party), but this is just plain scary.
>>
>
> Yeh, my brother went to school in Mankato and fled after the first winter.
> I'll take Hawaii any day, but surprisingly, my second choice would be
> Alaska... in the panhandle. Winter in the Great Lakes region is actually
> colder than much of Alaska.

Yes, even in Cleveland the "lake effect" winters are sheer misery.

Wayne