I never boil them either and would agree they just don't seem to work
(for me) in country wines. I make more wine from grapes so am not an
authority.

Joe

Tom S wrote:
> "Ray Calvert" > wrote in message
> . com...
> > I have found that I really do not care for oak in any of the
country wines
> > I have tried it in and I have made a lot.
>
> I suspect that oak is not a good thing in most country wines, with
the
> possible exception of blackberry.
>
> Tom S