"pinky" > wrote in message
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> Not the ones I use! Including Winexpert.
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> But Ray is just as sensible as am I ( well most of the time). What it does
> show is that wine, during its

Thank You Trevor (I think?)

THere are differences of oppinion here, but, as you say, wine making is an
amazingly forgiving hoby. But as both Trevor and I have suggested, pick a
reputable set of instructions, as in a kit instructions or a good book, and
follow them to get started. There are many ways to make wine. But you
should be carefull about mixing methods untill you know what you are doing.

Ray

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