elice Friese wrote:

> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> <snip>
>
> > I consider tipping to be something I have to tolerate. Personally, I don't
> > like
> > the idea of a person's wages being dependent upon the generosity of
> > customers.
> > Some of them are cheap SOBs. I like the system in use in most of Europe
> > where
> > tax and service are included in the menu price. If a meal is $20, you pay
> > $20,
> > and maybe leave a little change for the waiter.
>
> And that "little change" for the waiter - would that be called a "tip"?
>

Tes, it is a tip, but it is a lot less than 15% that is expected here.