On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Doug Kanter wrote:

>
> "Lena B Katz" > wrote in message
> ...
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>>
>> On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Pan Ohco wrote:
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>>> On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:31:43 -0500 (EST), Lena B Katz
>>> > wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, TheAlligator wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Doug Kanter" > wrote:
>>>>>> That last comment is the best reason of all to do one or both of:
>>>>> I thank you for your comments, and your points are noted. She has no
>>>>> fear of guns, by the way. She can outshoot me on any given day, as she
>>>>> has since she was little. It's embarassing.
>>>>
>>>> just don't try using guns to defend yourself... it is _such_ a bad idea.
>>>> if people want to use stuff to defend themselves, there are more
>>>> practical
>>>> ideas (like sound grenades).
>>>>
>>> Sorry Lena. If you learn how to use a gun, it is really easy to
>>> defend yourself.
>>
>> not really. you need to be "good" with a gun to defend yourself. be
>> "calm" in the face of danger. and, most of all, you've got to be able to
>> see the other person.
>>
>> If you can see the other person, that was his second mistake. The first
>> was not wounding you severely on the first shot.
>>
>> but, you can find weapons that are more effective against ... more
>> intelligent foes. and you shouldn't assume that the person attacking you
>> is stupid.
>>
>> The reaction of hearing a bullet/gunshot should never be reaching for your
>> gun... it should be "hit the deck" followed shortly thereafter by creating
>> a physical blockade of stuff between you and where the gunshot came from.
>>
>>>> never try to defend yourself with something that requires line-of-sight.
>>>> in most situations, you're lucky if you have _awareness_ of an attack,
>>>> before it occurs, let alone time enough to "point, aim, shoot"
>>> Point, aim and shoot are instinctive if you are trained
>>
>> yeah. but they shouldn't be the only instincts you're trained with... and
>> they're probably not the best instincts, anywhichway.
>>
>>>> guns are offensive weapons.
>>> Many in this country are used for self defense
>>
>> by idiots, fighting idiots.
>>
>> lena
>
> Someone who drops an intruder in their home in the middle of the night is a
> "fighting idiot"???

That's not using it defensively. You're on the offense there, not the
other person.

Lena