"Lena B Katz" > wrote in message
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>
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> On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Doug Kanter wrote:
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>> "Lena B Katz" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Pan Ohco wrote:
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>>>> On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:31:43 -0500 (EST), Lena B Katz
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, TheAlligator wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Doug Kanter" > wrote:
>>>>>>> That last comment is the best reason of all to do one or both of:
>>>>>> I thank you for your comments, and your points are noted. She has no
>>>>>> fear of guns, by the way. She can outshoot me on any given day, as
>>>>>> she
>>>>>> has since she was little. It's embarassing.
>>>>>
>>>>> just don't try using guns to defend yourself... it is _such_ a bad
>>>>> idea.
>>>>> if people want to use stuff to defend themselves, there are more
>>>>> practical
>>>>> ideas (like sound grenades).
>>>>>
>>>> Sorry Lena. If you learn how to use a gun, it is really easy to
>>>> defend yourself.
>>>
>>> not really. you need to be "good" with a gun to defend yourself. be
>>> "calm" in the face of danger. and, most of all, you've got to be able
>>> to
>>> see the other person.
>>>
>>> If you can see the other person, that was his second mistake. The first
>>> was not wounding you severely on the first shot.
>>>
>>> but, you can find weapons that are more effective against ... more
>>> intelligent foes. and you shouldn't assume that the person attacking
>>> you
>>> is stupid.
>>>
>>> The reaction of hearing a bullet/gunshot should never be reaching for
>>> your
>>> gun... it should be "hit the deck" followed shortly thereafter by
>>> creating
>>> a physical blockade of stuff between you and where the gunshot came
>>> from.
>>>
>>>>> never try to defend yourself with something that requires
>>>>> line-of-sight.
>>>>> in most situations, you're lucky if you have _awareness_ of an attack,
>>>>> before it occurs, let alone time enough to "point, aim, shoot"
>>>> Point, aim and shoot are instinctive if you are trained
>>>
>>> yeah. but they shouldn't be the only instincts you're trained with...
>>> and
>>> they're probably not the best instincts, anywhichway.
>>>
>>>>> guns are offensive weapons.
>>>> Many in this country are used for self defense
>>>
>>> by idiots, fighting idiots.
>>>
>>> lena
>>
>> Someone who drops an intruder in their home in the middle of the night is
>> a
>> "fighting idiot"???
>
> That's not using it defensively. You're on the offense there, not the
> other person.
>
> Lena

The definition of "defensively" depends on your perception of the situation.
If someone's in your home at 3:00 AM and you didn't invite them, do you
assume it's likely they will harm you, or not?

I'll help you with this: Somewhere on this website: www.davekopel.org is an
article about interviews with people serving time for burglary. The vast
majority said they tried very hard to choose homes which were unoccupied,
for obvious reasons. You can draw your own conclusions about that, but mine
is that if a burglar enters a home that is occupied, he is fully prepared
and willing to deal with whatever happens. I take it a step further and say
that if he's got a gun, it doesn't matter whether it's in his hand or not.
It's automatically a self defense situation.

You really ought to spend some time in another newsgroup. rec.guns, and
float some of your wacky ideas there. There are plenty of people who have
the resources and statistics at their fingertips, and thus are able to grind
your foolishness into the dirt, as appropriate.