"Lena B Katz" > wrote in message
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>
>
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Doug Kanter wrote:
>
>>
>> "Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Doug Kanter" >, if that's their real name,
>>> wrote:
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>>>> Sometimes, people ask to be shot, and it's rude not to grant their
>>>> request.
>>>
>>> ROFL! Emily Post was your mom, wasn't she?
>>>
>>> Carol
>>
>> It's just common sense, Carol. Think about it: Using my city (Rochester
>> NY)
>> as an example, it's estimated that 1/3 of homes have a properly working
>> gun
>> of some kind.
>
> Who is doing this estimating? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess it
> isn't the "anti-gun" advocates.

Interview with our county sherrif, on TV a couple of years ago. He was using
real pistol permit stats from the county clerk's office. Sorry, Lena. It's
real. This doesn't necessarily mean that all those guns are in good working
order and ready to use. But they do, in fact, exist.



>> In NY, it's ***LEGAL*** (as in NOT ILLEGAL, for the benefit
>> of slow learners) to shoot an intruder, no questions asked, as long as
>> they
>> are IN YOUR DWELLING. Not your garage, not your yard, not your car, but
>> actually in the house.
>
> Your home is your castle, and all that. Old law, dating back to England.
>
>> Translation: A burglar has a 1 in 3 chance of being shot dead.
>
> Damn. That's gotta be a stretch. You're trying to tell me that a shotgun
> is going to kill that burglar?

If that's a technical question about whether a shotgun will do the job,
you're an expert, so you know the answer. You've spoken to all sorts of Army
experts.


> Seriously, let's think about this:
> in order to shoot someone, you need to be able to find the gun, be able to
> aim and shoot (that is, the person in the house needs to be able to fire
> and be accurate), and have a gun that is capable of killing someone before
> they get to the hospital.

Actually, shotguns are the perfect home defense weapon for two reasons:

First, they are highly lethal, even if the shot's not perfect. You're an
expert on guns, so you know why that is. Maybe others here do NOT know, so
why don't you (the expert) tell us why shotguns are so lethal that they're
carried in virtually all police cars, and are increasingly used by the
military for perimeter security?

Second, the sound of a pump shotgun being racked communicates BIG trouble to
an intruder. They know that shotguns are lethal. Therefore, if they hear
that sound and do not leave the house instantly, you can conclude that they
are armed, or they are insane. That clears up many things in just a matter
of moments.


> But, how many people do you know who keep their guns on them at all times?
> Most of the people I know keep them in places where the robbers would have
> an easier time finding the gun than the people who own the house.

You shouldn't hang around with stupid people like that. It's dangerous.



>Fat chance, unless you are a crack shot, or enjoy letting people bleed to
>death (if you do, you have earned my enmity and hatred). Hospitals know
>how to save most people from a lousy bullet wound.

How is a shotgun wound different from a "lousy bullet wound"? You're an
expert. Teach me.

As far as letting someone bleed to death, the police generally recommend
that you remain a fair distance from an injured intruder, for your own
safety. And, the law does not require that you administer first aid.


>> I don't know
>> about you, but I think anyone who accepts such lousy odds in return for a
>> VCR and some jewelry is (as psychiatrists say) "out of their friggin'
>> minds", and is asking to be shot.
>
> He's asking to go to jail. That's all. But any competent thief will know
> when you go to bed, and will know when you aren't there at all. (it's
> only expert thieves that will use gas, but then you've got bigger
> problems).

Gas???? What the phuque are you talking about? Oh...wait. I know. You're
gonna say that thieves in D.C. commonly lob tear gas into homes before going
in.

Got it.