On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:32:54 GMT, "Charles Gifford"
> wrote:

>"David Wright" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:46:36 GMT, "Charles Gifford"
>> > wrote:

>> In context, I assume you meant that they pledged their allegiance to
>> Spain rather than Mexico.
>
>It is hard to say the exact meaning! I meant that they did pledge their
>allegiance to Mexico in fact but to Spain in their hearts.

I understand now.

> Many of the
>Spanish gave help the U.S. eventually, but later regreted it.

>I think they
>were more endeared with the California Republic idea than the U.S., but that
>is only my opinion.

Well, then the gold rush happened, but you and I had nothing to do
with that.

>A similar thing happened in Texas I think.

That pre-Alamo, land-settling thing, and the 1846, I think, "war."

The good thing is, political boundaries can't dictate cultural
preferences, including, especially, ones of food.
>
>> >Most "Mexican" government officials in California were
>> >actually Spanish. I have a dear friend who bristles when called a
>Mexican.
>> >She is of Spanish ancestory. Her family has been in California since the
>> >18th century. She speaks the Spanish of Aragon.
>>
>> As do many people I knew in New Mexico.
>
>Yes. It is amazing that so few people understand that.

I had a few friends, artists, who knew English better than they did
the Spanish of Santa Fe. Their ancestors were the ones who had been
sent up to the High Road between Santa Fe and Taos to build villages
to protect the capital from the Comanches. But they weren't allowed to
have guns, so they traded with the Comanches for a few muskets so they
could defend themselves.

That's a true story, but whether it's a fact, I don't know. ;-)

>One popular survivor is Santa Maria BBQ. Some say it is not "real"
>BBQ. Actually it is closer to the probable original Barbacoa than Southern
>Style Q's. Santa Maria BBQ is California Rancho cooking at it's best! With a
>crusty loaf of bread and a fine California wine to go with it.

If it's a slab of ribs or a butterflied roast tossed onto a length of
expanded metal or a grill over some hot coals, I'm with you, Charlie!


>I might add that there is a lot of shared Mexican influence in CA and AZ
>because the migrant workers in these two states tended to come from the same
>Mexican states (Sonora and Jalisco). I'm not sure about New Mexico, but
>Texas certainly had workers from different Mexican states.
>
>> Thanks, Charlie. That's a keeper.
>>
>> David
>
>I'm glad it helps. I am not an expert by any means, but I have lived in San
>Diego for a long time! My father's mother and father had a winter home here
>when the population was about 25,000.

I think it was late '40s when my first wife's parents lived there and
would go out to the country to Mission Valley to buy fresh produce
from the farms. :-)

David