Dusty wrote:
> Samartha Deva wrote:
> ...
>
>>Well, first of all, the rise is not coming alone from the yeasts with
>>sourdough - somewhere it was written that up to 50 % of the CO2 can be
>>coming from the LB's - or something to that extent.
>
> Huh? You got a cite for this, Samartha? I've never read that the LB's
> generated CO2. As far as I know, they make cycloheximides, not gas...

Oh man - can't know everything.

Heterofermentative (that's what LB SF's are) lactic acid fermentation
(and do):

C6H12O6 (glucose) -> CH3-CHOH-COOH (lactic acid) + CH3COOH/CH3-CH2OH
(acetic acid/alcohol) + CO2 <-----!!! (carbon dioxide)

(that's from the sourdough bible I use, please forgive me any typos)

But - this document, also printed in Dan Wing's Bread Builder's book:

http://samartha.net/SD/docs/DW-post1-4n.html#463

you should have studied by now.

You really disappoint me there. You probably fell victim of the yeast
industries propaganda and me thinks that listening to Alex Carey's
manuscript would greatly widen your horizon:

http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=4041

to see how endangered real sourdough usage is. Maybe someone gets a
patent soon and starts filing John Doe suits against infringers or they
gen-modify the LB's for single use. Then we would all have to secretely
grow your outlawed starters in the basement behind closed curtains (this
alone would be suspicious already, so it's gonna be closet growing time
in the dark). I think we need some general uprising soon to prevent this
from happening. Who wants to grow his starter in a dark closet?

I just hope that they will bring out the new show at
http://www.tucradio.org/new.html uncloaking the yeast corporations spin
with their yeast used by the pharaohs to promote unhealthy yeast
consumption and harming the American people.


Enjoy!

Samartha