On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:14:44 -0600, Kevin S. Wilson >
wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 12:15:05 -0400, "Bob (this one)" >
>wrote:
>
>>Otto Bahn wrote:
>>> "A.C." > wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>>Otto Bahn wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Oh, right, so when an American kid says "We're having
>>>>>spaghetti for lunch", he means a big heaping plate of
>>>>>nothing but plain noodles -- no sauce, no cheese, and
>>>>>no beef hamburger. Right.
>>>>>
>>>>>When I order spaghetti at Lorena's Italian Restaurant
>>>>>(which I do about once a week), I don't have to tell
>>>>>them I'd also like the above ingredients put on it.
>>>>
>>>>that's because we americans have *******ized the meaning of 'spaghetti' into
>>>>something
>>>
>>> Exactly my point.
>>>
>>>>that would better be described as 'spaghetti bolognese'
>>>
>>> That's just a value judgement better left unsaid.
>>>
>>>>as opposed to
>>>>spaghetti carbonara or spaghetti marinara or spaghetti calabrese or any of the
>>>
>>> Those modifiers still make sense in America to distinguish
>>> them from normal spaghetti.
>>>
>>>>other many recipes. spaghetti IS the noodle. and there are plenty of things to
>>>>do with it that do not involve a tomato. mmmm even spaghetti, garlic, mushrooms,
>>>>olive oil and parmesan cheese and fresh cracked black pepper kicks ass bit i
>>>>wouldn't call it 'spaghetti'
>
>Exactly. Such a dish would properly be called "spaghetti noodles with
>garlic, mushrooms, parmesan (pahr-me-shaun) cheese." I've omitted the
>olive oil and cracked black pepper, as they are standard ingredients
>in all spaghetti noodle dishes.
>
>>> Do you pronounce it "Italy" or "Italia" or "China"?
>>
>>Amazing how much misinformation can be crammed into so few words. And
>>how enormously scant the understanding is. Truly an outstanding job.
>
>Yes, thank you, oTTo.
>
>>No, seriously...
>>
>Did you computer cut you off just as you were about to say something.
>Mine does that sometimes, too.