"Kevin S. Wilson" > wrote

> >>>>Oh, right, so when an American kid says "We're having
> >>>>spaghetti for lunch", he means a big heaping plate of
> >>>>nothing but plain noodles -- no sauce, no cheese, and
> >>>>no beef hamburger. Right.
> >>>>
> >>>>When I order spaghetti at Lorena's Italian Restaurant
> >>>>(which I do about once a week), I don't have to tell
> >>>>them I'd also like the above ingredients put on it.
> >>>
> >>>that's because we americans have *******ized the meaning of 'spaghetti' into
> >>>something
> >>
> >> Exactly my point.
> >>
> >>>that would better be described as 'spaghetti bolognese'
> >>
> >> That's just a value judgement better left unsaid.
> >>
> >>>as opposed to
> >>>spaghetti carbonara or spaghetti marinara or spaghetti calabrese or any of the
> >>
> >> Those modifiers still make sense in America to distinguish
> >> them from normal spaghetti.
> >>
> >>>other many recipes. spaghetti IS the noodle. and there are plenty of things to
> >>>do with it that do not involve a tomato. mmmm even spaghetti, garlic, mushrooms,
> >>>olive oil and parmesan cheese and fresh cracked black pepper kicks ass bit i
> >>>wouldn't call it 'spaghetti'
>
> Exactly. Such a dish would properly be called "spaghetti noodles with
> garlic, mushrooms, parmesan (pahr-me-shaun) cheese." I've omitted the
> olive oil and cracked black pepper, as they are standard ingredients
> in all spaghetti noodle dishes.

Olive oil and pepper, sure, but only cooking junkies
would claim the pepper had to be cracked.

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