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"Jeff" > wrote in message
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>
> I've never heard of that "feature" before. I think I might learn to
> hate it, too.
>
> You got me curious enough to go visit the Thermador website,
> <http://www.thermador.com>. The gastops main page in particular
> suggests they are selling themselves as very snooty/modern/fashionable.

yes they do -- and no I do not want to talk about why I jumped into that
particular puddle


> Did you get one of the star burner models, or one of the conventional
> ones?

I think it is conventional -- I don;t think they offered whatever the star
burner is when I bought mine

>Glancing through an owner's book for some of their conventional
> models, I noticed that the so-called ExtraLow burners do not work in
> the event of a power failure. Tsk-tsk.

no they don't but the other two do if you happen to have matches around

>The burners have removeable caps
> like mine, but the burner holes (which are located in the base) must
> still be poked out with a paper clip or some such to clean them.

This is true, the caps are removable and if not precisely put back then all
the burners sit there and cheerfully spark. My vocabulary has increased as a
result of this stove. Ok so now I am curious enough to go look at where the
holes are ... The caps have holes in them.

>What's
> the point of removeable caps, then? There's a diagram in the owner's
> book for some of the star burner models that shows that they put the
> burner holes in the caps, so at least the caps may be soaked and
> scrubbed out to clean the holes.

Yeah I suppose I ought to soak mine one of these days.

>
> <shrug> I guess to keep your pressure cooker at the first ring
> indicator (and maybe the second one, too), you might as well use one of
> these burners and let it turn on and off. Better than having to turn it
> on and off yourself, manually.

Well I am not really sure about using the automated burners to tell you the
truth. Keeping the pressure at the second ring I have mastered pretty well.
The first ring I think will work if I let it come up to pressure on the
front burner and then shove it to the back (slightly smaller) burner. I
don't have much faith in the automated burners and the endless sparking as
they turn on and off makes me crazed.

The front led for the time and the oven temp has gotten dim enough so that
figuring out if the oven has reached the temp or what temp the oven is at is
a real PITA. Of course a service call to repair that is probably several
hundred $$ so I suppose I will wait til something else fails and get it all
fixed at once. I am sure that won't be too long :-(

What I think is that this is a very mediocre product and for mediocre I
could have spent a whole lot less and been equally as depressed :-) Next
time I will just buy some middle of the road range and be done with it. I
don't need a super high temp burner as far as I know -- what do people do
with that anyway? And I will surely never buy a black range again that I
know for a fact ...


Ellen