On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:38:17 GMT, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
>Derek wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:14:53 GMT, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
>>>Derek wrote:
>>>>On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 10:21:42 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 14:08:58 +0100, Derek > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Claim and Standard:
>>>>>>[sbull] Grass Fed.--Grass, green or range pasture, or
>>>>>>forage shall be 80% or more of the primary energy
>>>>>>source throughout the animal's life cycle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dated: December 20, 2002.
>>>>>>A.J. Yates,
>>>>>>Administrator, Agricultural Marketing Service.
>>>>>>[FR Doc. 02-32806 Filed 12-27-02; 8:45 am]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BILLING CODE 3410-02-P]
>>>>>>http://www.ams.usda.gov/lsg/stand/ls0202.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>These "proposed minimum requirements mean that
>>>>>>grass fed beef can in fact be fed up to 80% grains for
>>>>>>60 days in a feedlot, just like any other steer, and still
>>>>>>qualify as grass fed beef.
>>>>>>Grass fed beef, then, isn't exactly what it's name
>>>>>>implies,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're not lying
>>>>
>>>>The evidence before you and which you'll ignore
>>>>at any cost to your already ruined integrity is from
>>>>U.S.D.A.
>>>
>>>False.
>>
>> No, it's perfectly true.
>
>No, it's false.

Go to the links and find yourself on U.S.D.A.

>You have reposted producers' public
>comments. You have not posted a USDA standard.

I've produced both the standard and comments
from grass fed beef producers pertaining to that
standard which reveal the lie behind grass fed beef.

>>>***No consensus standards currently exist*** for
>>>production or marketing claims related to meat and
>>>livestock products.
>>
>> Yet you earlier claimed their was a standard, and that
>> that standard is followed.
>
>No. There IS an implied standard. It's not a USDA
>standard.

As things stand at the moment, according to U.S.D.A.

"Some segments of the livestock and meat industries
make claims to distinguish their products from
competing products and may request third-party
verification by USDA to increase the credibility of
their claims."
http://www.ams.usda.gov/lsg/stand/ls0202.txt

As we can plainly see, so-called grass fed beef
producers are lying and require "third-party
verification by USDA to increase the credibility
of their claims."