Derek lied:
> On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 16:50:33 GMT, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
> >Derek wrote:
> >> On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 16:19:50 GMT, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
> >>>Derek wrote:
> >>>>On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:52:26 GMT, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
> >>>>>Derek wrote:
> >>>>>>On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:38:14 GMT, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
> >>>>>>>Derek wrote:
> >>>>>>>>On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:09:01 GMT, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>At present, "grass-fed beef" means exactly that: 100%
> >>>>>>>>>grass-fed.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>No, that isn't true,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Yes, it is true. The USDA has proposed, but NOT YET
> >>>>>>>ADOPTED
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Not so.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"The proposed marketing claim standards may be used in
> >>>>>>conjunction with [non]existing regulations or voluntary
> >>>>>>USDA grade standards in USDA Certified and USDA
> >>>>>>Verified programs." [my edit]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"AMS is seeking public comment on the following proposed United
> >>>>>>States Standards for Livestock and Meat Marketing Claims. New
> >>>>>>participants in USDA Certified or USDA Verified programs will be
> >>>>>>required to adhere to the United States Standards for Livestock and
> >>>>>>Meat Marketing Claims immediately."
> >>>>>
> >>>>>So. PROPOSED, not adopted.
> >>>>
> >>>>Adopted immediately
> >>>
> >>>NOT adopted.
> >>>
> >>>http://www.ams.usda.gov/lsg/stand/claim.htm
> >>>http://www.ams.usda.gov/lsg/ls-st.htm
> >>>http://www.ams.usda.gov/lsg/
> >>>
> >>>It is STILL only a proposed standard.
> >>
> >> What part in, "New participants in USDA Certified or
> >> USDA Verified programs will be required to adhere to
> >> the United States Standards for Livestock and Meat
> >> Marketing Claims immediately." don't you understand?
> >
> >It doesn't mean what you're saying it means.
>
> It means that ALL "New participants in USDA Certified
> or USDA Verified programs will be required to adhere
> to the United States Standards for Livestock and Meat
> Marketing Claims immediately

It doesn't mean that producers must be participants in those programs,
you ****wit.

It STILL is only a proposed standard. It has not been adopted. You
lied.