"Lew Bryson" > wrote:
> "Bill Benzel" > wrote:
>> Suggest you have a look at their web site ( http://www.stonebrew.com )
>> and tell me what you find that portrays them as bad boys.
>>
>> Do bad boys spend years petitioning the government to make the
>> phrease "Imperial Russian Stout" acceptable to ATF?
>>
>> Locally, Stone's image among average consumers of "good beer"
>> and beer geeks alike is quite the opposite.
>
> I strongly suspect the OP's question on "breaking rules" and
> "anti-establishment" meant the beer geek establishment, and supposed
> style category rules, not actual anti-social behavior. I could be
> wrong...but I wouldn't bet much on it.

First, being a "bad boy" doesn't mean you're a blood member of the Hell's
Angels. It means you're what I said in my original post.

And being a rebel means rebelling against the system (as does being
anti-establishment). Their fight against the ATF would qualify for that ...
though that's not exactly an epic struggle. It can mean against the
conformist ways of an industry as well.

And "bad boys" can and do raise donations for causes they believe in. They
don't "just" feed on the living like vampires. *rolls eyes* Think a young
Marlon Brando, James Dean, and such. Being a "bad boy" isn't a put-down but
a compliment. They're exciting and living on the edge. Not tying knots to
earn an establishment's merit badge. ;-)

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