In article . com>,
"SD" > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > In article . com>,
> > "SD" > wrote:
> >
> > > Doug Kanter wrote:
> > > > "Goomba38" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Doug Kanter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Good parents, good dog owners. I suspect that the opposite would be
> > > > >> dogs
> > > > >> which slobber all over new visitors, even as the visitors gently (or
> > > > >> harder) knee them in the face. What the hell's wrong with people
> > > > >> like
> > > > >> that, pretending not to notice that people don't want to be
> > > > >> slobbered?
> > > > > I'm a good parent and a good dog owner. My dogs do lick plates and
> > > > > cookware yet never slobber on visitors.
> > > > > Goomba
> > > >
> > > > Good for you. I once entered a relative's house, and her stupid border
> > > > collie leapt onto my chest, got her claw stuck in the chest pocket of a
> > > > $600
> > > > suit, and tore the left panel right off the jacket. Big learning
> > > > experience
> > > > for the lady. Expensive, too.
> > >
> > > It wasn't her stupid border collie. I was HER STUPIDITY in not properly
> > > training the dog. Most dog "problems" originate with the owners
> > > inability to be responsible dog owners. You're blaming the dog for the
> > > failings of it's owner.
> > >
> > > SD
> > >
> >
> > Yes... and no.
> >
>
> It still boils down to stupidity of the owner. If the owner can't or
> won't spend the time to work through or adapt to the behavior problems
> or gets a dog that is not suitable for the owners life style, it's not
> the dog's fault for being in that situation. It's the fault of the
> human for setting the dog up to fail in the behavior department.
>
> SD
>

You are preaching to the choir but the point is that some dogs do tend
to have specific behavior problems that are more difficult to train out.

Nobody ever told me that by _allowing_ a dog her normal behavior (with
permission only) was going to solve the problem of her doing it when I
did not want her to.

I learned it by accident.

Sometimes you just have to work with a dogs normal behavior rather than
trying to suppress it completely.

At least it worked for us. ;-)

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson