No I don't think it was in August : -) Me too, I'd been cutting down on
the kneading for a long time, but then someone said something or other
about the window pain method which made be run back to kneading for ten
minutes or more. The window pain method works fine but you really don't
have to knead to get there. I made the best wholemeal I ever made at
the weekend using an autolyse coupled with a few folds. It certainly
spares the old joints and lets you get on with other things. : -)

Jim