usual suspect wrote:
> Beach Bunghole wrote:
>
>>> Associated Press
>>> HOUSTON — A man from Great Britain who lived in Houston for four
>>> years has been diagnosed with variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, the
>>> human form of mad cow disease, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control
>>> confirmed today.
>>>
>>> The 30-year-old man was diagnosed with the second U.S. case of
>>> variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease because his symptoms began while he
>>> lived in Houston.
>>>
>>> Earlier this year, he returned to Great Britain, where his disease
>>> progressed and he is now receiving medical treatment for the fatal
>>> illness.
>>>
>>> The U.K. National Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease Surveillance Unit in
>>> Edinburgh, Scotland, informed the Atlanta-based CDC of the probable
>>> variant CJD diagnosis and told the disease center the case would need
>>> to be reported as a U.S. case.
>>>
>>> The man was born in the United Kingdom and lived there from
>>> 1980-1996, a period during which those living in the country were at
>>> risk of exposure to beef products infected with bovine spongiform
>>> encephalopathy, more commonly known as mad cow disease.
>>>
>>> The infected man's temporary stay in the U.S. has been deemed "too
>>> brief relative to what is known about the incubation period for
>>> variant CJD," the CDC said. It is believed he was infected in the
>>> United Kingdom because the disease's incubation period can last
>>> years, sometimes decades....
>>>
>>> A total of 185 people from 11 countries have been diagnosed with
>>> variant CJD since 1996. A majority of the cases — 158 — have been
>>> diagnosed in Great Britain, 15 in France, three in Ireland and two in
>>> the United States. Canada, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands, Portugal,
>>> Saudi Arabia and Spain have each also reported a case.
>>>
>>> The initial U.S. case involved a woman from Great Britain who was
>>> living in Florida. She died last year, Schonberger said.
>>>
>>> "They have been having cases in the United Kingdom on a regular
>>> basis," he said. "From our perspective, this is just the continuation
>>> of the ongoing outbreak in the United Kingdom."
>>>
>>> Rest of article:
>>> http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/printsto...onicle/3476565
>>> ---------------------------------------
>>> Note to Beach Bungler Bob: 185 cases over ~10 years isn't an
>>> outbreak, an epidemic, or the tip of some kind of iceberg. It's no
>>> doubt a tragedy, but it's very much isolated both geographically
>>> (85.4% of all diagnosed in the UK, and 100% of US reported cases
>>> involved Britons as well; the UK's population is 0.94% of the world's
>>> population) and to a specific time frame (1980-1996). The number of
>>> new cases in the UK continues to *decline*, which isn't what one
>>> would expect if it were the tip of some iceberg.
>>
>>
>> We don't know the full extent,
>
>
> We know that the problem was isolated geographically and that it applied
> to a specific period of time. The experts have, for the most part,
> retracted their wildest forecasts and are increasingly skeptical that a
> pandemic of vCJD will occur.
>
>> or how contaminated the bovine food supply was
>
>
> Wrong, we do know the extent. We also know that rendering in the US and
> UK were different. Since the UK had more cases of BSE early on, and
> since the UK rendered those animals, it stands to reason that rendered
> feeds in the UK would have a greater rate of contamination. The other
> nations with significant cases of BSE imported cattle and feeds from the
> UK. The US was not a big importer of either UK feeds or UK cattle:
> BSE has not occurred in the United States or other countries
> that have historically imported little or no live cattle, beef
> products, or livestock nutritional supplements from the UK. Even
> though rendering procedures in other countries underwent changes
> similar to those in the UK during the late 1970s, BSE has
> apparently emerged solely within the UK. The most plausible
> explanation is that the proportion of sheep in the mix of
> rendered animal carcasses and the proportion of scrapie
> infections in such sheep were probably higher in the UK than
> elsewhere. These proportions were apparently sufficient to bring
> very low levels of the etiologic agent in batches of rendered
> carcasses over the threshold of transmission in the UK but not
> in other countries.
> http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol7no1/brown.htm
>
>> and is for how many years.
>
>
> The window isn't unlimited. Researchers are increasingly skeptical there
> will be a pandemic or even significant increases in the number of new
> cases because the data don't support it. The actions taken early on in
> the UK -- specifically banning feeds made with rendered ruminants --
> coincide with a peak of cases. Since that time, new cases have fallen
> quickly.
>
>> The long period it takes to emerge
>> makes it impossible to predict the full outbreak.
>
>
> The window from time of infection to detection appears to be within a
> decade. Some new cases may occur from infection via blood transfusion,
> medical instruments, etc., but the food supply has been shown to be very
> safe.
>
>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...610802,00.html
which says basic
>>> ooy it won't come.
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>
a leading doctor without data says it won't happen.
I've posted experts that say it will.
It doesn't compare to the effects of many other dangers facing us,
and certainly the coronary diseases facing meat eaters.
And the sad fact that most people's phytochemicals comes from coffee
because their diet is so lacking in produce.
>
> Did you even look at these, dummy?
You can call me a dummy, which is not statistically or remotely true,
while you continued anti social behavior is demonstrated in most of your
posts. I'm especially offended by the obscenities you post at good
woman. Fidyl for example serves her community and he clients. She does
much good, but because you disagree on a questionable biography, you
feel the right to post obscenities. It is bad form, show bad social
judgment, and is just plain rude. I mentioned she did yoga, well she's a
more complete yoga teacher, that was the tip of the iceberg. She does
good, and helps promote teaching the disadvantaged. She helps society.
I help society. I solve problems for companies. I contribute to my
community by playing when they need a musician, usually pro bono in
spite of my status. In fact, one band has raised over $500,000 that
goes to supporting the local arts. That is a good thing. What do you do
that's good. I'd be interested.
I have seen many studies that show farmers are ignoring the regulations
or unaware of them.
And I don't consider Mad Cow Disease the major calamity new media
stories love. It is a danger. We face far greater dangers. Excess meat
consumption, which is the rule, is a prime factor in cardio vascular
disorders. Overuse of antibiotics. The transport of nuclear materials
an burying them under the pimple of the desert, that is not geologically
stable is probably the biggest danger human, and most higher forms of
life face.
Stop your insults and you'd be listened to as a more rational human
being. You have talent and intelligence, but your constant insults would
give anyone cause to wonder about your sanity, if not your basic civility.