Beach Runner wrote:
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> Beach Runner wrote:
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>> usual suspect wrote:
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>>> Beach Bunghole wrote:
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>>>>> Associated Press
>>>>> HOUSTON — A man from Great Britain who lived in Houston for four
>>>>> years has been diagnosed with variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease,
>>>>> the human form of mad cow disease, the U.S. Centers for Disease
>>>>> Control confirmed today.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 30-year-old man was diagnosed with the second U.S. case of
>>>>> variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease because his symptoms began while
>>>>> he lived in Houston.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earlier this year, he returned to Great Britain, where his disease
>>>>> progressed and he is now receiving medical treatment for the fatal
>>>>> illness.
>>>>>
>>>>> The U.K. National Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease Surveillance Unit in
>>>>> Edinburgh, Scotland, informed the Atlanta-based CDC of the probable
>>>>> variant CJD diagnosis and told the disease center the case would
>>>>> need to be reported as a U.S. case.
>>>>>
>>>>> The man was born in the United Kingdom and lived there from
>>>>> 1980-1996, a period during which those living in the country were
>>>>> at risk of exposure to beef products infected with bovine
>>>>> spongiform encephalopathy, more commonly known as mad cow disease.
>>>>>
>>>>> The infected man's temporary stay in the U.S. has been deemed "too
>>>>> brief relative to what is known about the incubation period for
>>>>> variant CJD," the CDC said. It is believed he was infected in the
>>>>> United Kingdom because the disease's incubation period can last
>>>>> years, sometimes decades....
>>>>>
>>>>> A total of 185 people from 11 countries have been diagnosed with
>>>>> variant CJD since 1996. A majority of the cases — 158 — have been
>>>>> diagnosed in Great Britain, 15 in France, three in Ireland and two
>>>>> in the United States. Canada, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands,
>>>>> Portugal, Saudi Arabia and Spain have each also reported a case.
>>>>>
>>>>> The initial U.S. case involved a woman from Great Britain who was
>>>>> living in Florida. She died last year, Schonberger said.
>>>>>
>>>>> "They have been having cases in the United Kingdom on a regular
>>>>> basis," he said. "From our perspective, this is just the
>>>>> continuation of the ongoing outbreak in the United Kingdom."
>>>>>
>>>>> Rest of article:
>>>>> http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/printsto...onicle/3476565
>>>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>>> Note to Beach Bungler Bob: 185 cases over ~10 years isn't an
>>>>> outbreak, an epidemic, or the tip of some kind of iceberg. It's no
>>>>> doubt a tragedy, but it's very much isolated both geographically
>>>>> (85.4% of all diagnosed in the UK, and 100% of US reported cases
>>>>> involved Britons as well; the UK's population is 0.94% of the
>>>>> world's population) and to a specific time frame (1980-1996). The
>>>>> number of new cases in the UK continues to *decline*, which isn't
>>>>> what one would expect if it were the tip of some iceberg.
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>>>> We don't know the full extent,
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>>> We know that the problem was isolated geographically and that it
>>> applied to a specific period of time. The experts have, for the most
>>> part, retracted their wildest forecasts and are increasingly
>>> skeptical that a pandemic of vCJD will occur.
>>>
>>>> or how contaminated the bovine food supply was
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>>>
>>> Wrong, we do know the extent. We also know that rendering in the US
>>> and UK were different. Since the UK had more cases of BSE early on,
>>> and since the UK rendered those animals, it stands to reason that
>>> rendered feeds in the UK would have a greater rate of contamination.
>>> The other nations with significant cases of BSE imported cattle and
>>> feeds from the UK. The US was not a big importer of either UK feeds
>>> or UK cattle:
>>> BSE has not occurred in the United States or other countries
>>> that have historically imported little or no live cattle, beef
>>> products, or livestock nutritional supplements from the UK. Even
>>> though rendering procedures in other countries underwent changes
>>> similar to those in the UK during the late 1970s, BSE has
>>> apparently emerged solely within the UK. The most plausible
>>> explanation is that the proportion of sheep in the mix of
>>> rendered animal carcasses and the proportion of scrapie
>>> infections in such sheep were probably higher in the UK than
>>> elsewhere. These proportions were apparently sufficient to bring
>>> very low levels of the etiologic agent in batches of rendered
>>> carcasses over the threshold of transmission in the UK but not
>>> in other countries.
>>> http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol7no1/brown.htm
>>>
>>>> and is for how many years.
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>>>
>>>
>>> The window isn't unlimited. Researchers are increasingly skeptical
>>> there will be a pandemic or even significant increases in the number
>>> of new cases because the data don't support it. The actions taken
>>> early on in the UK -- specifically banning feeds made with rendered
>>> ruminants -- coincide with a peak of cases. Since that time, new
>>> cases have fallen quickly.
>>>
>>>> The long period it takes to emerge
>>>> makes it impossible to predict the full outbreak.
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>>>
>>> The window from time of infection to detection appears to be within a
>>> decade. Some new cases may occur from infection via blood
>>> transfusion, medical instruments, etc., but the food supply has been
>>> shown to be very safe.
>>>
>>>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...610802,00.html
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>> which says basic
>> >>> ooy it won't come.
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>> rosurhttp://www.euveillance.org/ew/2004/040513.asp#3
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>> a leading doctor without data says it won't happen.
>> I've posted experts that say it will.
>>
>> It doesn't compare to the effects of many other dangers facing us,
>> and certainly the coronary diseases facing meat eaters.
>> And the sad fact that most people's phytochemicals comes from coffee
>> because their diet is so lacking in produce.
>>
>>>
>>> Did you even look at these, dummy?
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>> You can call me a dummy, which is not statistically or remotely true,
>> while you continued anti social behavior is demonstrated in most of
>> your posts. I'm especially offended by the obscenities you post at
>> good woman. Fidyl for example serves her community and he clients.
>> She does much good, but because you disagree on a questionable
>> biography, you feel the right to post obscenities. It is bad form,
>> show bad social judgment, and is just plain rude. I mentioned she did
>> yoga, well she's a
>> more complete yoga teacher, that was the tip of the iceberg. She does
>> good, and helps promote teaching the disadvantaged. She helps society.
>>
>> I help society. I solve problems for companies. I contribute to my
>> community by playing when they need a musician, usually pro bono in
>> spite of my status. In fact, one band has raised over $500,000 that
>> goes to supporting the local arts. That is a good thing. What do you
>> do that's good. I'd be interested.
>>
>> I have seen many studies that show farmers are ignoring the
>> regulations or unaware of them.
>> And I don't consider Mad Cow Disease the major calamity new media
>> stories love. It is a danger. We face far greater dangers. Excess
>> meat consumption, which is the rule, is a prime factor in cardio
>> vascular disorders. Overuse of antibiotics. The transport of nuclear
>> materials an burying them under the pimple of the desert, that is not
>> geologically stable is probably the biggest danger human, and most
>> higher forms of life face.
>>
>>
>> Stop your insults and you'd be listened to as a more rational human
>> being. You have talent and intelligence, but your constant insults
>> would give anyone cause to wonder about your sanity, if not your basic
>> civility.
>>
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> BTW, as a proof of honesty,

That doesn't prove her honesty -- she lied about the first thanksgiving.