Dave,

Let me modify what I said. I have made Welch's white several times and it
always goes down to 0.995 or less. However I have tried 3 batches of
Welch's red and bends of the red with other fruit and all batches stuck
between 1.010 and 1.030. Others have not had this problem. Jack suggested
that I might have racked the wines at the wrong time and caused them to
stick. I have not tried again to test his theory.

Ray

"DAve Allison" > wrote in message
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> Ray,
> 1.105 down to 1.010. It stuck there and I thought it close enough. Guess I
> am learning all the time.
> DAve
>
>
> Ray Calvert wrote:
>> IF you used Jack's recipe as it is given it should not have come out
>> sweet. What was the starting and ending SG. The only times I have had
>> that recipe come out sweet was when it stuck which has happened.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> "DAve Allison" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>
>>>wow. thanks for the thread of information. I just finished 10 half
>>>bottles of Welchs frozen using Jacks website recipe. I didn't get from
>>>his recipe that 12 months was a good holding time. Guess this gallon of
>>>1/2 bottles goes into the back of the closet. :* )
>>>
>>>I didn't like the sweet taste when bottling it, so maybe it mellows as
>>>you all suggest.
>>>I'm gonna have to start putting "maturity" dates on my wine labels so I
>>>know when i can start drinking. :*)
>>>
>>>DAve
>>>
>>>David J. wrote:
>>>
>>>>Oh I'm sure. Like I said the one I opened at 8 or 9 months was decent.
>>>>I'll check it again in a few more months.
>>>>
>>>>David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Dar V" > wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>David,
>>>>>There are those of us who like the Welch's when it is a bit older than
>>>>>8
>>>>
>>>>or
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>9 months. I've had some at 1 1/2 years which I thought was very good. I
>>>>>think it all depends on one's taste.
>>>>>Darlene
>>>>>
>>>>>"David J." > wrote in message
.rr.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Maybe a little off topic if you are just asking about adding a can to
>>>>>>existing wine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have experimented with this plenty of times with Welch's Concord and
>>>>>>Fruit
>>>>>>Cocktail but it never really turned out that great. It will produce a
>>>>>>drinkable wine but not enjoyable if you ask me. I have tried it with
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>few
>>>>>>different kinds of yeast and still not too good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I will say though, it is funny that this thread just popped up again.
>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>a common one. I just took out some Welch's last night that I have had
>>>>>>sitting in a jug for about 8 or 9 months now just to taste. It tasted
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>lot
>>>>>>better than it did a few months ago when I last tried it. So maybe it
>>>>>>just
>>>>>>needs to age.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'll tell you what turned out really good though. With 2 cans of
>>>>
>>>>frozen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Harris Teeter apple juice some sugar to bring the gravity to 1090 (if
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>remember correctly) and finishing sweet (cant remember the gravity).
>>>>
>>>>This
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>turned out really good. Not too sweet but much apple flavor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I did another apple but substituting the white sugar for brown. This
>>>>
>>>>was
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>really harsh for a long time but after almost a year it has mellowed
>>>>>>out
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>tasted pretty good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Ray Calvert" > wrote in message
y.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes, use frozen concord grape concentrate. It should not have the
>>>>>>>preservatives. Be careful about trying to pick up the body of
>>>>>>>concord
>>>>>>
>>>>>>wine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That stuff typically has plenty of body.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ray
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Matthew Givens" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:bf72c$42bf78b2$18d645bf$28031@KNOLOGY. NET...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Go to Jack Keller's website (http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/), and
>>>>
>>>>he
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>has recipes for wine from frozen grape juice concentrate. I have
>>>>
>>>>made
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>three one-gallon batches with different types of juice, and it works
>>>>>>
>>>>>>fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Not the best wine I've ever tasted, but not the worst, either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Robert Lewis" > wrote in message
. atl.earthlink.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Dumb question....., but hey, I gotta ask.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Has anyone made a batch of red wine using store bought grape juice
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>no preservatives except citric acid) as part of the ingredients?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'm thinking this. My recipe calls for (per gallon amount)
>>>>>>>>>· 5 lbs of Concorde grapes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>· 2 quarts of water
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>· 2 lbs of sugar
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>So what if I substituted some of the water with grape juice, for a
>>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>>full body in the finished product?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Just some thoughts that I'd like ya'll's opinion on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Robert
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>