I don't see where you ever said whether you made the white or red. If it
was red, I think the Concord grape will overpower just about anything you
blend with it. If the white. it blends well with almost anything. The last
batch of Niagara I made came out very dry and unlike other batches was just
missing something. I had also made a batch of straight mead that came out a
bit sweet. A blend of the two was excellent. Much like a semi-dry
Riesling.
Ray
"DAve Allison" > wrote in message
. ..
> Ah. that is helpful information, Ray.
> Well, I will let this sit another few weeks in the cold storage to see if
> it clears from the Sparkolloid I added (1/2 teaspoon in cold water).
> Blending with other fruit sounds interesting, I'll have to google around
> to see what might be a good combo.
>
> DAve
>
> Ray Calvert wrote:
>> Dave,
>>
>> Let me modify what I said. I have made Welch's white several times and
>> it always goes down to 0.995 or less. However I have tried 3 batches of
>> Welch's red and bends of the red with other fruit and all batches stuck
>> between 1.010 and 1.030. Others have not had this problem. Jack
>> suggested that I might have racked the wines at the wrong time and caused
>> them to stick. I have not tried again to test his theory.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> "DAve Allison" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>
>>>Ray,
>>>1.105 down to 1.010. It stuck there and I thought it close enough. Guess
>>>I am learning all the time.
>>>DAve
>>>
>>>
>>>Ray Calvert wrote:
>>>
>>>>IF you used Jack's recipe as it is given it should not have come out
>>>>sweet. What was the starting and ending SG. The only times I have had
>>>>that recipe come out sweet was when it stuck which has happened.
>>>>
>>>>Ray
>>>>
>>>>"DAve Allison" > wrote in message
. net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>wow. thanks for the thread of information. I just finished 10 half
>>>>>bottles of Welchs frozen using Jacks website recipe. I didn't get from
>>>>>his recipe that 12 months was a good holding time. Guess this gallon of
>>>>>1/2 bottles goes into the back of the closet. :* )
>>>>>
>>>>>I didn't like the sweet taste when bottling it, so maybe it mellows as
>>>>>you all suggest.
>>>>>I'm gonna have to start putting "maturity" dates on my wine labels so I
>>>>>know when i can start drinking. :*)
>>>>>
>>>>>DAve
>>>>>
>>>>>David J. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh I'm sure. Like I said the one I opened at 8 or 9 months was
>>>>>>decent.
>>>>>>I'll check it again in a few more months.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dar V" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>David,
>>>>>>>There are those of us who like the Welch's when it is a bit older
>>>>>>>than 8
>>>>>>
>>>>>>or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>9 months. I've had some at 1 1/2 years which I thought was very good.
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>think it all depends on one's taste.
>>>>>>>Darlene
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"David J." > wrote in message
st.rr.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Maybe a little off topic if you are just asking about adding a can
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>existing wine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have experimented with this plenty of times with Welch's Concord
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>Fruit
>>>>>>>>Cocktail but it never really turned out that great. It will produce
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>drinkable wine but not enjoyable if you ask me. I have tried it
>>>>>>>>with a
>>>>>>>>few
>>>>>>>>different kinds of yeast and still not too good.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I will say though, it is funny that this thread just popped up
>>>>>>>>again.
>>>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>>a common one. I just took out some Welch's last night that I have
>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>sitting in a jug for about 8 or 9 months now just to taste. It
>>>>>>>>tasted a
>>>>>>>>lot
>>>>>>>>better than it did a few months ago when I last tried it. So maybe
>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>needs to age.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'll tell you what turned out really good though. With 2 cans of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>frozen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Harris Teeter apple juice some sugar to bring the gravity to 1090
>>>>>>>>(if I
>>>>>>>>remember correctly) and finishing sweet (cant remember the gravity).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>turned out really good. Not too sweet but much apple flavor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I did another apple but substituting the white sugar for brown.
>>>>>>>>This
>>>>>>
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>really harsh for a long time but after almost a year it has mellowed
>>>>>>>>out
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>tasted pretty good.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Ray Calvert" > wrote in message
igy.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes, use frozen concord grape concentrate. It should not have the
>>>>>>>>>preservatives. Be careful about trying to pick up the body of
>>>>>>>>>concord
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>wine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>That stuff typically has plenty of body.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ray
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Matthew Givens" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:bf72c$42bf78b2$18d645bf$28031@KNOLOG Y.NET...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Go to Jack Keller's website (http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/),
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>he
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>has recipes for wine from frozen grape juice concentrate. I have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>made
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>three one-gallon batches with different types of juice, and it
>>>>>>>>>>works
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Not the best wine I've ever tasted, but not the worst, either.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Robert Lewis" > wrote in message
s.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Dumb question....., but hey, I gotta ask.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Has anyone made a batch of red wine using store bought grape
>>>>>>>>>>>juice
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>(with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>no preservatives except citric acid) as part of the ingredients?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I'm thinking this. My recipe calls for (per gallon amount)
>>>>>>>>>>>· 5 lbs of Concorde grapes
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>· 2 quarts of water
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>· 2 lbs of sugar
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>So what if I substituted some of the water with grape juice, for
>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>>>>full body in the finished product?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Just some thoughts that I'd like ya'll's opinion on.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>