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Mark Thorson
 
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Default Dumb Question (?) - Propane Torches

"Bob (this one)" wrote:
>
> Why don't you just stop posting about this. You've been shown to be
> wrong on *all* counts of your offerings.


That's not at all true. For example, a few people
have asserted that there is no such thing as an
odorless food-grade propane and/or butane:

Steve Wertz wrote:
>
> I think somebody was maybe confusing food grade gases such as CO2
> or N2O and figured there must be a food grade version of
> propane/butane, too...
>
> But instead of simply admitting his mistake, went to unnecessary
> lengths to try and cover it up.


Dave Smith wrote:
>
> WTF ?????
> Where the hell did you come up with this food grade propane stuff?


George wrote:
>
> Don't think there is such a thing. I think both propane
> and nat gas must include an odorant (usually methyl mercaptan).



This belief is refuted by several patents to food chemists
at Cargill, such as U.S. Patent 6,610,343:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...S=PN/6,610,343

"Most preferably, the solvent is a category I solvent
approved by The Council of the European Committees
(Jun. 13, 1988 Council Directive) for use in food
processing. Food grade propanes and butanes generally
meet all of the above stated preferences."

And it is further refuted by a study made by a
scientist at the USDA:
http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/pub..._NO_115=121505

"A new commercial invention incorporating a supercritical,
low-pressure, liquified gas extraction process using
food-grade butane as the extraction gas is currently
being used to extract chocolate liquor and peanuts and
the oil and residue solids are both edible products."

And just for fun, here's a new one from the
Propane Education & Research Council (PERC):
http://www.propanecouncil.org/files/
11352_EEA_GoodPractices_Report_Final.PDF

"The requirement to add odorant can be waived in
special-use applications, such as aerosol propellants
and food and drug products where the odorant has a
detrimental effect on the final product."


Note, Bob, I'm not saying that you denied that
there is such a thing as odorless, food-grade
propane or butane. You were much more clever
about that. You admitted that such a product
exists, but then you asserted that:

A) I recommended buying food-grade propane.
B) You can't buy food-grade propane.

A was purely an invention on your part, so you
could attack me for B. That would have worked
if I hadn't pointed out that I never said A.
I never recommended buying anything.

I didn't make a recommendation on what people
should buy. I've never made creme brulee,
but I think I remember seeing a cooking show
in which an electric barbeque stater was used.
If it worked, I'd use that method. But I wasn't
absolutely sure that I'd seen it, and I couldn't
even remember which show, so I didn't make
that recommendation.