Michel Boucher wrote:

> Dave Smith > wrote in
> :
>
> > How was I supposed to know about their alleged conservative and
> > anti-immigrant stand? I don't read Danish.
>
> Neither do I but it wasn't terribly hard to dig into this to uncover
> the real JP.
>
> > But it is interesting
> > that they cite a review of "The Trouble with Islam". I read that
> > book a few months ago and found it quite interesting. It is
> > written by Moslem who criticizes some aspects of contemporary
> > Islam as a religion based on the Quran but a culture based on
> > arabic dessert culture, and that many of the modern practices and
> > teachings are at odds with the teachings of the Quran.
>
> And Christianity is a Middle Eastern religion as well over a thinly
> veiled North European barbarian core. What of it? When it comes
> right down to it, all religions are thin veils over less savoury
> cores.
>
> > Their solicitation of cartoons to explore the nature of
> > self censorship
>
> That was Rasmussen's explanation, taken up later by the JP.
>
> > is a thin disguise for racism and hate, but the
> > racist and violent reaction is...... ?????? Son of a gun, they
> > elicited the racism and hatred of that culture.
>
> You're mixing two things here. The reaction of Muslims outside
> Denmark was not the intent of the cartoons (a bonus to the extreme
> right-wing parties, maybe) but rather the publication aimed at
> causing the Danish Muslims to riot (believing representations of the
> Prophet to be forbidden) in order to then point the finger and call
> for their expulsion. Unluckily for the JP, the Danish Muslims took
> the civilized route and foiled that dastardly plot. It's fairly
> disingenuous of the Danes to have anti-islamic sentiments when they
> actually invited them to come work in Denmark back in the 1970's.
> They are of the group called guest-workers, not unwanted immigrants
> at all.
>
> However, nowadays, among Muslims, Denmark has a reputation for being
> possibly the most racist of all the Northern European nations.
>
> http://nhindymedia.org/newswire/display/3209/index.php
>
> http://www.sabawoon.com/news/minihea...article&artid=
> 28170
>
> My wife was living there up until the mid 1980's and already racism
> (anti-Turkish) was poking its ugly little head. One of her friends,
> a black woman from New York, would get into trouble with strangers
> accosting her rudely in the street if they believed her to be a
> "turk", but it was ok if she was black. So they have been acting on
> their racist inclinations for at least twenty years unchecked because
> of the belief that they are a civilized nation. Muslims outside of
> Denmark have been rioting for a few weeks because they are angry.
> You need some perspective here.
>
> The situation of "foreigners" has only gotten worse in recent years
> and escalated after 9/11.
>
> "[...] the Danish government declared war on the some 300,000
> immigrants in the country, 70 percent of whom are Muslims.
>
> "Right-wing and center-right parties have run viciously anti-Muslim
> campaigns. Among its acts of scapegoating, Denmark shut down its
> national borders, slashed immigrant welfare payments by 30 percent
> [NOTE: To people they had invited to come live in Denmark to work] or
> more and barred marriage of Danes to "foreigners" before the age of
> 24."
>
> You should read more and rant less :-)


Boy, Michel that is *really* rich (not to mention disengenous in the
*extreme*) coming from you...

Do carry on...

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Best
Greg :-|