Boron Elgar wrote:
> But you do realize that the reform movement began in Germany, not the
> US, but don't let that stop your bigoted ideas.

And look at what type of Judaism is recognised in Germany today - orthodox. Go
and try to find an officially recognised Reform community there.

I am sorry that G-d when he wrote the Torah didn't consider what Americans
would think about it and make the appropriate modifications. I don't consider
Christianity to be Jewish either even though there is reason for them to call
themselves Jewish too. Many Christians consider themselves to be the Jews of
today and that G-d substituted them for us. Am I a bigot for not considering
these Christians Jewish too? From what I could tell from the definition of
'bigot' it is an intolerant person. I can tolerate people believing things
that I don't. But because someone starts believing in recent times something,
I don't have to accept it to be the truth though - for that I am guided by
other considerations. If that is what you consider a bigot then I guess I am
as I don't believe everything everyone else believes in (though I can
certainly tolerate them).

Judaism does not have to satisfy every society and their beliefs and since
political correctness is a very recent invention you can be sure that the
Torah does not follow it either. Sorry. Although you might find some Jews
appologetic about it and ready to explain how the Torah can satisfy the
American societal beliefs, there is actually no problem in it not being so.
The Torah is bigotted because it frowns on homosexuality too - bummer.

I snipped the part of your response mentioning that you took offense at what I
said, but speaking of offense... You can be sure that I am offended by these 2
religions adding the word "Judaism" to their name. What gives them the right
to besmurch orthodox Judaism that way when it was around before they came
along? In the commercial world it would be called a trademark violation I
think, but with regards to Judaism everyone can add their description to it
and confuse the situation and insult us.

regards,
Ben