Sheldon wrote:
> Blair P. Houghton wrote:
> > Jke wrote:
> > > I am under the *impression* penne may be marketed as ziti in the USA.
> >
> > There's a taxonomy he
> >
> > Ziti: straight macaroni with a medium diameter (smaller is just
> > "macaroni" and bigger gets into the "manicotti" and "canneloni" range)
> >
> > Penne or Penne Ziti: Ziti with the ends cut obliquely, like a quill
> > pen
> >
> > Penne Rigate: Penne with ridges on the outside
> >
> > Penne Lisce: Penne with a non-ridged surface
> >
> > Rigatoni: Ziti with ridges on the outside and a straight-cut end
> >
> > And, oh yeah, a couple of thousand years of spaghetti bending has made
> > it even more complicated than that:
>
> Thousands, try about 100 years... it was only a little more than 120
> years ago that the first extruded/tubular pasta was made.... previously
> the 'talians made only cut flat pasta (cut by knife and wires), not
> even 'ghettis were dreamed up yet. Of course for thousands of years
> the orientals produced long noodles entirely by hand, using no tools
> whatsoever, by intricate stretching techniques. The first pasta
> extrusion dies were made in trhe US in 1903.

Sheldon you ignorant burger flipper.

http://international.loc.gov/cgi-bin...+@lit(mcc/027))

Note clear depiction of extrusion at bottom of machine.

The first mention of the word "spaghetti" in /english/ was in 1849.
Who knows how long the Italians were using the words spaghetti
("string") and spago ("cord") to refer to long, thin noodles before
that.

You are so ****ing sad.

--Blair