Barry Bean wrote:
:: " BOB" > wrote in news:Y3Q9g.23396$Sl4.8838
:: @bignews1.bellsouth.net:
::
::::: But the fact of the matter is that when there are a core group
of
::::: contestants and a core group of judges, its not that difficult
to pick
::::: out someone's BBQ, especially when over the course of a small
::: relaxed BBQ
:::
::: BULL SHIT! You know nothing about blind judging.
::
:: With all due respect, I've been a MIM judge, I've competed in MIM
and

MIM is *NOT* KCBS. KCBS is *NOT* AZBBQA. MIM is *NOT* FBA.
All of these (and other sanctioning bodies) have their own rules.
Some places, these rules are similar. Some places they are as
different as night and day. They are *NOT* the same.

:: KCBS contests, I was a food critic for several years, and I've been
a
:: blind judge in BBQ, beer, wine, and chili contests, not to mention
blind
:: tastings of bourbon, scotch, and other liquors. I think that I am
not
:: only well acquainted with blind judgeing in general, I'm very
familiar
:: with blind judgeing and BBQ competitions.

LOL! What does *ANY* of this have to do with you competing under KCBS
rules, then bitching in *this* newsgroup when you get DQed for not
following the rules?

I gave you a link where your bitching could get you some answers.
Someone else gave you the same link. You chose to *NOT* go the the
KCBS BBQ forum and ask.

It looks like you went toa KCBS contest and tried to compet using MIM
rules and it didn't work.

If you *are* qualified/certified in all of the different organizations
you mention, then you should understand that each and every
organization has different rules. Would you enter beer in a wine
contest? Chili in a BBQ category in a BBQ contest? I didn't think
so.

::
::::: contest, you've had a chance to visit each team and sample what
they're
::::: cooking. My mesquite smoked sage rubbed meat looks, smells and
::: tastes
:::
::: Maybe you are "Marking" Look it up. It's in the rules.
::: If the sage was in large flakes or chunks, read the rule on
garnish.
::: Specific things are allowed. Others (some specifically mentioned,
::: others not specifically mentioned) are not. If they are *NOT* in
the
::: allowed list, they are illegal. Read the rules.
::
::
:: What does the fact that different cooks have different rubs,
marinades,
:: smoke sources, grills, cooking times have to do with garnish or
marking?
:: The fact is that many cooks produce very distinctive BBQ that can
:: beeasily identified regardless of garnish or presentation.
::
:: Once again, the point is that its not that hard for a seasoned
judge to
:: recognize a particular cook's meat if he's had it before. This
could be
:: an advantage or a disadvantage, depending on the judge and the
cook, but
:: I suspect most judges are honest enough that it wouldn't sway their
:: scores either way.
::
::: Or maybe they just don't like you.
::
:: Maybe they don't (which swould be surprising, considering how many
of
:: them came by the tent to visit, sample, and hang out), but what
does that
:: have to do with discussing the garnish rule?
::
::: Sounds (again) like you were disqualified for using an illegal
::: garnish.
::
:: No, no disqualification for me. We always play by the rules.
::
::: Did you bother to read the rules *BEFORE* you went to the
::: competition? If so, tuff luck. If not, tuff luck again.
::
:: Did you read the original post?
::
:: Again, if KCBS rules are so sacrosanct that they can never be
questioned,
:: I apologize. And thanks again for reminding me that AFB is the
sort of
:: place that cookers from all ranges of experience can come to share
:: perspective, ask questions, and generally enjoy conversation about
BBQ.

Go question the rules on the forum I posted earlier. Over there, you
will get answers from people that are actually *on* the KCBS rules
committee. The rules are questioned. There is, in fact, a movement
under way to get the use of garnish eleminated in KCBS. It's an
uphill fight because so many of the KCBS members like the rule the way
it is, but there is a growing movement to get it eliminated.

BOB
who is now finished with you in this thread until you ask your
questions where you might get more than one person giving you answers
with regards to the actual KCBS rules

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