Hannah Gruen wrote:
> On Mon, 22 May 2006 19:53:12 -0400, Dana Carpender
> > wrote:
>
> >What have I said that's cultish? I haven't said that no one should
> >grains. I haven't advocated zero carbs, or suggested that everyone
> >should eat the same way. I haven't said that no one should ever eat
> >grains. I haven't said that everyone needs to eat a low carb diet. I've
> >asserted that grains -- and concentrated carbs in general -- are
> >unnecessary foods, and that carbohydrate is inessential.
>
> As to Carmen's argument about whether proteins are essential or not -
> well, all I can say is that she is doing a great job of demonstrating
> that she's reached the sophomoric stage in her education. Here's
> hoping she finds her way out of it. Switching back and forth between
> colloquial and technical term usage, to support whichever side of an
> argument you're favoring, isn't exactly useful here on usenet. Nor is
> using that technique to set up straw man arguments. And she was doing
> both.

No, if you'll go back and check Dana started the entire argument by
creating a strawman. It was also Dana who switched between colloquial
and technical teminology. She created an argument by saying this:

"And yeah, since grains and beans in any quantity have only been part
of
the human diet for 10,000 of the 2 million or more years we've been
around, it's really hard to see how they're essential."

Nobody had said squat-all about them being essential. She created her
own argument. Later on she herself brought up the shift to
carbohydrates - not me. This is where she did it:

"Except that they are exactly that -- inessential. Carbohydrate is
inessential. In nutrition-speak, "essential" is defined as something
the body cannot make for itself. Given protein and fat, the body is
perfectly capable of making all the glucose it needs."

As you can see above, it was Dana who was responsible for the
sophomoric behavior you accused me of. I would think that after all
these years you'd know me better than that. Perhaps not.
As far as the protein argument goes, I used Dana's own "inessential"
parameters to make that argument. She refused to recognize them when
applied to any other macronutrient however, which was informative.

Carmen