On Tue 23 May 2006 02:57:40p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Victor
Sack?

> Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon 22 May 2006 02:47:59p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Victor
>> Sack?
>>
>> > kilikini > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I do too, Wayne, and I have never had a better recipe than this one.
>> >> If you do an online search for German Potato Salad, all you get are
>> >> recipes with mayo and mustard. Huh? That's not supposed to be in
>> >> there!
>> >
>> > Nonsense. I see I have to repost some of what I posted before...
> [snip]
>> > The recipe you posted appears to be a version of some of Bavarian
>> > potato salads, particularly those from the Franken region.
> [snip]
>> > Moving to the north, you will find mayo being used more often in
>> > potato
>> > salads. Rhineland versions are made with homemade mayo. The versions
>> > to the north and east of the Rhine may or may not contain mayo and
>> > are often more complicated and made with a lot of additional or
>> > alternative ingredients, particularly mustard, sour cream, sausages,
>> > other meats, herring, etc., often combining them.
> [snip]
>
>> Nonsense, indeed, Victor. Neither Kilikini nor I live in Germany,
>
> Eh, do you have a problem with reading comprehension? Kilikini may not
> live in Germany, but she has very clearly indicated she was talking
> about a particularly *German* recipe, coming from her *German*-born (and
> presumably -bred) grandmother. Here is her text again, to jog your
> obviously failing memory:
>

Quote:

>> > > This recipe is the real deal from my German grandmother Esther Berg >> > > Ciesemier. (Last name used to be Ziesemeier.) Can't get more >> > > German than that! >

Yes, I read what she wrote and I understood it the first time. I don't
think she was indicating that her grandmother's recipe was the *only*
recipe for "German Potato Salad".

>> nor do
>> you live in the US.
>
> Are you always that presumptuous? I may not live in the USA now, but I
> have lived there before, if only for a short time. Yet, in that short
> time, and even though I was in no position finacially to go out to eat
> more than a couple of times every few months, I did see and taste a
> couple of "German Potato Salads" made with either mustard or mayo (but
> not both together, if memory serves). What gives? Not that it matters,
> obviously.

It certainly does not matter at all.

>> In the US there is definitely a style of potato salad
>> known as "German Potato Salad", with variations, of course. You'll
>> find recipes with that title in many American cookbooks. It may not be
>> authentic, it may not be German, but it is what is known here, like it
>> or not.
>
> And again, not that it matters in the least, you'll find recipes with
> that title containing mustard or mayo just as easily - why, Kilikini
> indicated as much above. Here are some links, as an example:

No, it doesn't matter in the least. FWIW, there are probably as many ways
to make potato salad as there are people who make them, regardless of
their country of origin. I never said otherwise.

You stay in the US was probably not long enough for you to realize that
most USians would identify a recipe like kilikini's as a typical "German
Potato Salad". It's far more common than any other variation.

> <http://www.askyourneighbor.com/recipes/043.htm> KATIE SCHROEDER'S
> GERMAN POTATO SALAD (from General Motors Executive Dining Room -
> 1960's)... contains mayo and sour cream.
>
> <http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/reci...D_9936_26990,0
> 0.html> German Potato Salad, Bobby Flay... contains mustards seeds.

The previous link doesn't appear to work.

> <http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/recipe_views/views/20100> House &
> Garden, February 1957, Eloise Davison... contains mustard.
>
> <http://www.marthastewart.com/page.jhtml?type=content&id=recipe4908>
> Warm German Potato Salad, Martha Stewart... contains mustard.





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