"ef_hutterite" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:47:15 GMT, "Alan"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
> >
> >Actually, the impact fees, if paid, are only a token amount of the total
> >expense. We still don't have impact fees here in most cities and towns in
> >NC. If you're a developer here you can expect the county and state to pay
> >for half your road costs and Duke Energy to run power to your
sites...even
> >if it means across the neighboring farmer's land....unless he hires a
lawyer
> >or stands out in the field with a shot gun.
>
> But is that what they do before or after they sell out to developers?

After. I know personally. I have some land I am restricting through a land
conservancy. A neighbor sold his 90 acres to a developer. Next thing I know,
the utility company all but demanded me to sign a sheet authorizing them to
cut a right-of-way through the middle of my 150 year old oak forest. The
only way I got them, and the other utility people, off my back was to
threaten a lawsuit which would delay the developer's progress. The developer
persuaded the neighbor across the stree to let them run the lines across his
property.

>
> >> > Name one place where
> >> > sprawl, and "increasing the tax base" has actually brought down taxes
> >> > and I'll move there.
> >>
> >> Las Vegas. East Wenatchee, WA. Seattle. Portland. etc. etc........
Start
> >> packing :-)
> >
> >As in the case of Portland, many of the cities you cite have limitations
> >controlling sprawl. Charlotte is a poster child of sprawl and encourages
> >unbridled development, Portland is the poster child for limiting sprawl :
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_growth_boundary . If Portland's taxes
> >property taxes have fallen then you have just helped to prove my argument
> >that sprawl increases taxes.
>
> Eh?
>
> Could it be that with more citizens in total the PER CAPITA property
> tax rate has diminished?

Could it be higher density is less expensive for infrastructure than sprawl?
It costs the same to run a sewer line down a street that has 100 people or
5. You collect more taxes from 100 people.

>
> Think.

Here's an article that came out just today in our local Observer:
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/15070108.htm

Rarely a week goes by we don't have similar articles.

Alan