"Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
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> Alan wrote:
>
> > Actually, the impact fees, if paid, are only a token amount of the
> > total expense. We still don't have impact fees here in most cities
> > and towns in NC. If you're a developer here you can expect the county
> > and state to pay for half your road costs and Duke Energy to run
> > power to your sites...even if it means across the neighboring
> > farmer's land....unless he hires a lawyer or stands out in the field
> > with a shot gun.
>
> Having lived in NC, I know your statements are BS. Self evident in the
> hyperbole is your statement indicating infringement on private land,
unless
> there is a covenated right-of-way.
Having had the wonderful experience happen to me personally in Cabarrus
County, (right outside Charlotte) then I can tell you never owned land next
to a development and was confronted by crews from Duke Energy, the cable
company, the water and sewer people. To top everything off, the developer's
retaining pond broke upstream of my creek and flooded my property,
devastating my creek. There's a cost that can't be accurately accessed since
that one was all about stress.
>
> > As in the case of Portland, many of the cities you cite have
> > limitations controlling sprawl.
>
> No, they don't. They have very specific planning regulations that govern
the
> permitting process, but they DO NOT limit housing development.
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_growth_boundary . If Portland's
> > taxes property taxes have fallen then you have just helped to prove
> > my argument that sprawl increases taxes.
>
> Yeah, that sentence makes all sorts of sense.
>
> Wikipedia, that's what we should all rely on as a factual basis to support
> your claims. Let's see now, who has actually developed property in each of
> the examples I've provided? How's about going through the building
> permitting processes in each jurisdiction? Oh, you haven't? Well, that mak
es
> one of us that knows what he's talking about.
Oh, you're a developer. It all makes sense. I have several
developer/buddies. They've found nice little niches in in-fill projects.
Charlotte's become so spread out that the next market seems to be people
moving closer to town. They still enjoy some 'benefits' from the utility
department I would never think about asking for in my own business. In fact,
I'm charged an Impervious Soil tax on vacant land next to our building.
That's supposed to be an impact fee of sorts. Ironically, the land is
forested, but the idiots downtown can't understand that.
Head up I-84 some time towards The Columbia River Gorge and note how
development stops at the county line. See for yourself.
Alan