Pan Ohco wrote:

> On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:22:29 GMT, "Marcelino"
> > wrote:
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>>Please examine what we do to animals on factory farms and in
>>slaughterhouses, denying animals everything that is natural to them
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> What we do to animals is to restrict their movements. If they were
> thinking beings that might be a problem. But they are not. Other then
> that the human feed & water them and keep them alive longer then if
> they had been in the wild.
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>>and then
>>killing them in gruesome ways,
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> If the bolt gun is used properly the death is instantaneous, without
> pain. (Death would occur before the pain was felt. )
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>>and try to tell me that this is moral.
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> Yes. What is immoral is mans actions towards other men. If one person
> dies because an animal is to live, that is immoral
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>>What animal welfare advocates suggest
>>is that we should also be compassionate toward all animals.
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> No what animal welfare advocates, (those that I know), are saying is
> that "I'm holier then thou". Not knowing that they look foolish.
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> If you can tell me that you have never killed an animal,( including
> bugs, rats, snake, ect.) then you can preach.
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> Oh and instead of throwing paint on a little old ladies' fur, throw it
> on a biker's leather. Then you can talk.

Once, in New York city, a guy came at me with a spray can of Day-Glo
red paint. I was wearing an Icelandic sheepskin coat at the time. I
said one word to him as he raised the can at me. I pointed at the can.

"Suppository."

He didn't spray me.

Pastorio