JimLane > wrote in message >...
> wrote:
> > You can call me a troll or whatever else you want. The website still
> > exists right he
> > http://suewidemark.netfirms.com/atkinsgeninfo.htm
> >
> > It includes lots of links and references.
> >
> > The Atkins Corporation is a multimillion dollar scam business who is
> > profitting from people whose lives are being ruined at the financial
> > gain of this malicious company. Also, Subway and TGIF restaurants are
> > part of the Atkins Corp.
> >
> > So, while you whiners complain about someone sending you some "get
> > rich quick" spam in your email, you are allowing this corporation to
> > continue scamming massive amounts of people, and even allowing them to
> > infiltrate every aspect of our lives. Tell me one place where you
> > have NOT seen an ad for "atkins" or "carb" lately, other than the
> > corner hardware store.
> >
> > The Atkins Corp. is one of the crookedest companies in the world, and
> > it's about time people learn about them.
> >
> > Go ahead, be brave, go to that website and learn something for once !
> > They'll be plenty of time to shoot your mouth off later, (after you
> > know what you are talking about).
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 19 May 2004 18:09:07 -0400, "Tesoro" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I believe he's a "troll". Friendly response though Jim, about what I'd
> >>expect here.
> >>
> >>"JimLane" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >>>He is a ng thug, or did that simple fact go racing right past you
> >>>without notice?
> >>>
> >>>jim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Tesoro wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I can hear the NG thugs rumbling now....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> > wrote in message
> m...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Tue, 11 May 2004 16:11:42 -0400, "Virginia Tadrzynski"
> > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Last go round was the diet to end high cholesterol which meant eating
> >>>>
> >>>>what
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>is now so bad for you and dropping all the things that you can now
> >>>>
> >>>>devour.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>I saw this posted somewhere and liked the idea.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>My idea of a perfect NO CARB diet:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>No Cheney
> >>>>>>No Ashcroft
> >>>>>>No Rumsfeld
> >>>>>>No Bush
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>And definitely omit the Rice.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Things to think about before staying on the Atkins diet for very long
>
> >>>>>From http://suewidemark.netfirms.com/atkinsgeninfo.htm
>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>1. The Atkins plan encourages people to restrict the foods which have
> >>>>
> >>>snip of newsgroup thug ramblings.
> >>
> >
>
>
> Yep, but being as you have bought off on this webpage, did you take a
> critical look at it? I'm betting not. Here is some of the mentalmidgetry
> that went right past you:
>
> 4. Every cardiologist - Note: not a number given or any proof it was
> more than one talked to.
>
> 5. Where is proof of this warning sent out to physicians? Say so don;t
> make it so.
>
> 10. One hundred of how many? In Chicago or across the US? Was the survey
> conducted randomly? What were the metrics used to select for selection?
> Lotsa unanswered questions that COULD mean the respondents belonged to
> one camp. Page cannot be found by clicking on your link.
>
> 11. Where is the proof of this claim? Not in evidence. I don't think of
> milk, cheese, etc., in terms of carbs, haven't looked, but that is where
> I get my calcium.
>
> 12. Innuendo means you are trying to load the deck and are not
> interested in being either fair nor ethical. If you have to resort to
> this, you are losing your argument.
>
> 13. So what? I know a lot of people on the Atkins diet and not one is
> buying their product. This is pure and simple economic jealousy on the
> part of people who are not capable of making it in the marketplace.
> Equivalent to Gates bashers.
>
> Half the argument presented is wasted bandwidth.
And the other half is crap too:
> 1. The Atkins plan encourages people to restrict the foods which have
> been proven to (significantly) cut the risks of cancer (like veggies
> and fruits) but has no restriction on the foods which have been proven
> in over 3500 studies to risk cancer risks.
False. Atkins allows fruit in moderation, and only forbids certain
starchy vegetables like potatoes and rice. Consumption of non-starchy
vegetables like spinach, broccoli, cauliflower, etc. is not only
encourage, but mandatory - you are supposed to eat at least two
cups of such vegetables a day.
>
>
> 2. Cholesterol is how your body absorbs fat. The reason we have too
> much of it, is either more saturated fat than our bodies can use or
> TRANSFAT which combines with cholesterol but then the body cannot use
> it so it stays in the bloodstream and clogs up the blood. The Atkins
> plan does NOT limit trans fatty acids nor does it limit saturated fat
> (although they suggest it might be good to somewhat limit fatty
> foods).
Absolutely false. Atkins flat out forbids trans-fats.
> 5. A group of physicians have put out a warning against the Atkins
> diet to other physicians explaining that if they encourage their
> patients to embark on the Atkins Plan, they might be in danger of
> lawsuit. Everyone should read the medical repercussions of the Atkins
> Plan before embarking on this diet.
>
>
> http://atkinsdietalert.org/
This is put out by the "Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine"
which, despite its deliberately misleading name, is not a medical group
but actually a vegan group affiliated with PETA (they even share offices).
>
> 7. The CSPI (and many others) wrote that the main reason people lose
> weight on the Atkins Plan is because they tend to consume less
> calories.
And this is a BAD thing????
> Now, about knowing what
> you are shooting off your mouth about - all you did was plagerize
> someone else's webpage. BTW, who is Sue Widemark? Did you ever examine
> who it was that was putting this information up on the web? I'll lay you
> odds you have not. She's some Granny who has put up a personal webpage
> supporting her philosophy, but presents no credentials of her own.
>
> Her research is sloppy at best. well intended, perhaps, but a bit sloppy.
>
>
> jim