"TG" > wrote in message
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> On 9 Jan, 21:49, "Kathi Jones" > wrote:
>> "Derric" > wrote in message
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>> >> I bought a vinegar mother from a wine making shop, followed the
>> >> directions
>> >> and tried to make vinegar out of my home brew wine....It never became
>> >> vinegar and I don't know why.
>>
>> > The acetobacter needs oxygen to make vinegar. You don't say, but if
>> > you didn't leave the wine open to the air (cheesecloth), the
>> > acetobacter
>> > wouldn't be able to get any O2 and wouldn't work. (That's probably the
>> > main reason most wine doesn't end up vinegar!).
>>
>> yes, I did use cheese cloth...which is why I'm stumped......
>>
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>>
>> >> There's a wine making newsgroup I used to
>> >> read, which is where I got the idea for trying
>> >> it....rec.crafts.brewing?
>> >> or
>> >> ...something winemaking? can't remember what the group was
>> >> called...anyway,
>> >> check them out - there are brewing people there that could be of some
>> >> help..
>>
>> > rec.crafts.brewing is about beer, rec.crafts.winemaking is for wine.
>>
>> right, thanks - couldn't remember - but I was close...;-)
>>
>> Kathi
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>> > Derric
>
> It is possible to make wine vinegar by leaving your wine out in the
> open to 'catch' the acetobacter but you can also 'catch' other things
> that you don't really want. It's better to add some preservative free
> vinegar about half and half if you really want to 'catch' your own,
> but it's much better, as someone else said, to buy or beg a mother
> from somewhere,
>
> http://cellar-homebrew.com/store/cat...her-p-910.html
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> I have a mother on my malt vinegar at the moment, it grew very
> quickly, I'm hoping it's okay and not something else, a friend of mine
> gave me some of his mother but it was quite old. Some of it was
> looking good so in it went. I took it out after a couple of days
> because it's the acetobacter that you're after not the cellulose mass.
> If the mother falls it can rot making off tastes in your vinegar I
> read. I fed some organic, unpasteurized wine vinegar 50:50 wine and
> vinegar, it tastes great now, it's ready for bottling already, I don't
> want it any stronger.
>
> Jim
>

I had a vinegar mother, bought it from a brewing shop - tried to make red
wine vinegar
followed the instructions and did what I was supposed to do -
tossed everything...will buy it ready made from the grocery store, much
easier!

but that's just my experience....I certainly didn't research it to the
extent that you did.
I hope you have better luck

Kathi