On Feb 16, 4:38�pm, "mm" > wrote:
> On Feb 16, 8:02 am, "Sheldon" > wrote:
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> > Peter A wrote:
> > > amanda772 says...
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> > > > I may or many not have soaked it last time I don't remember. I didn't
> > > > towel dry and left the parts on the top shelf inside the dishwasher
> > > > and closed the door slightly ajar but my have closed it later
> > > > forgetting to take those out. ?When i used it the next time, I saw
> > > > white stuff coating the meat. I was grinding a lot of meat. The white
> > > > stuff didn't stop though it ?got to be lighter. I threw all that meat
> > > > out. ?Called the vendor and got manufacturer's phone number and got
> > > > replacement. Learned that the parts other than blade, and die-cast are
> > > > Aluminum coated with stainless teel. It was obvious anyway.
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> > I've never seen any grinder made of stainless steel clad aluminum...
> > they are all aluminun, all stainless steel or *tinned* steel/cast iron
> > (not galvanized [zinc]).
> > Without knowing which grinder you have all *anyone can offer is wild speculation
> > about the details...
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> Back to basic model 4500; I suspected that it was all Aluminum but
> when asked, I was told that it's stainless steel coated. I asked her
> to be sure when she told me hat.
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> >but there
> > are some criteria inherent with all grinders. There are two reasons
> > meat smears/sticks, it's too warm and/or the front nut is not screwed
> > down tightly. *
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> The meat was still not completely thawed and the unit was cold for my
> hand.
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> >Meat to be ground must be fully chilled (place in the
> > freezer for fifteen minutes), and it's also a good idea to freeze the
> > grinder so that is cold too...
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> Gee..lot of work
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> >. all bowls and implements should be pre-> chilled also.
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> > > You do know never to wash anything aluminum in the dishwasher?
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> > This is true.
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> > > I will say that aluminum coating sounds odd. Aluminum is rust proof but is rather soft.
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> > Aluminum is not rust proof, aluminun rusts very easily, that white/
> > grey coating is aluminum oxide...
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> Yes, sir. Am, actually was a Chemist btw.
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> > dishwashing soaps are powerful
> > oxidizers... no aluminun should be placed in the dishwasher.
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> > There is no reason to soak grinder parts, simply hand wash in *hot*
> > water with ordinary dishwahing liquid *immediately* after use...
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> I just want to save my not so big hand from so much work. I am
> constantly wiping things because I like it very clean. So I want the
> sticky meat to rinse off when placed under the faucet.
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> > towel *dry and be sure to let the carbon steel grinding plates fully air dry
> > and then ligthtly coat with vegetable oil... for long storage use
> > products made especially for storage, like food grade silicone grease.
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> Coating oil was not what I did.
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> > I use a grinder often, clean up never takes more than five minutes and
> > couldn't be simpler... immediately after grinding the meat goes into
> > the fridge while I clean everything, only then do I continue preparing
> > the meat.
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> After grinding and cleaning, *I lost the mood to cook it, in fact,
> even to just season it ..to make pot stcikers.
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> > I now own two grinders, my long time trusty Moulinex, and my new
> > slightly larger and more powerful Waring Pro:http://i5.tinypic.com/2i9rqmc.jpg
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> > Sheldon
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> I bought electric so that I won't have a hassel and now I am wondering
> the manual would have been the same deal time-wise and in the amount
> of work involved in cleaning.-

Actually you should never be allowed in a kitchen... but you already
knew that.