In alt.support.diabetes rk > wrote:
> "Alan Moorman" > wrote in message
> news
> : On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:28:51 +0000,
> : lid (Phil Aypee) wrote:
> : >Hi Alan,
> : >
> : >I'm genuinely sorry you feel this way but we all have areas of learning
> others don't understand and an NG forum is as appropriate a place to air
> them as any.
> : >For those who don't understand something (or even just don't want to read
> it), they are free to skip it.
> : >
> : >If we *want* to understand but don't then we should ask, ask and ask
> again - that's an effective way of learning.
> : >
> : >But it achieves nothing to criticise posters whose posts we don't
> properly understand.
> : >It even achieves nothing to criticise those who appear to deliberately
> obfuscate matters to prevent non-geeks understanding (which criticism
> *doesn't apply here*).
> :
> : But, that's just wrong and irresponsible, isn't it?
> : "to deliberately obfuscate matters to prevent non-geeks
> : understanding"
> :
> : Isn't it?
> :
> : I mean, it is someone's right, I guess, but how does what
> : they learned, but can't express for us, help us?
> :
> :
> : Sure, anyone can post anything on topic.
> :
> : But, isn't there an implied courtesy to make it
> : understandable to most of the readers of a group?
> :
> : I simply don't see the point of posting what is mumbo-jumbo.
> : Sure, they can, if they want. But, what a waste!
> :
> : What is it you don't understand about that?
> :
> : Alan Moorman
> :
> I've pretty much stayed out of this argument, but I think something
> needs to be mentioned. While some of you that are "high and mighty"
> that think others need to come up to your level.. did you ever think
> that there might be some here that aren't able to come up to that
> type of reading comprehension no matter how long they sit and read
> a page? There are some I'm sure here that have learning disabilities,
> thoses who take other medications that prevent reading comprehension,
> etc.. is it fair to those folks to basically call them "stupid" or "lazy"
> because
> they have issues that prevent them from being able to follow along.
That's not the problem. Nobody has been calling those who don't
understand this or that stupid or lazy. Not understanding everything
is a basic feature of human existence. The attack is coming from a
very small vociferous minority who are accusing others of pretending
to be clever by using big words.
> I am
> posting this for a friend that is a psychologist, who's now been diagnosed
> a T2 and happens to have been born deaf and without a terp it takes her
> much longer to try to figure out what all of your big fancy words translate
> into simple everyday english since in ASL, they don't use fancy words.. Life
> is real, life is simple.
If it was we wouldn't have had to invent science in the first place.
> We aren't in a college lecture.. this is a simple newsgroup where the
> average person SUPPORTS the average person..
Check out the BGs being reported by folk in asd. Then compare them to
the average BGs of diabetics in the US as reported by ADA. The posters
here are obviously very far from average. What's more, many of them
have quite explicitly pointed out that it is their ambition to get
even further away from being an average diabetic.
Asd is a support group for those who don't want to be the average
diabetic with the average diabetic complications. Nothing whatsoever
average about it, and that is its great virtue.
--
Chris Malcolm
DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
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