On Jul 6, 11:35 am, notbob > wrote:
> On 2007-07-06, Andy <q> wrote:
>
> > Well, that's how it went down for this camper, iirc.
>
> Sorry to hear it.
>
> > I wish I had kids. I'd be sending them off to summer camp right about
> > now!!!
>
> Me too. I went to Boy Scout and YMCA for about 3 yrs. Loved every minute
> of it. Learned to smoke and swear and shoot and throw knives.

You say, "Learned to smoke," as if that was, or in ANY WAY could be a
good thing. Just what we need. Send your kids off to a camp run by
what are supposedly Christian groups (BSA being theist, if not
strictly Christian, and openly anti-***), where they learn "to smoke
and swear and shoot and throw knives."
>
> I think every kid should do camp. No cellphone or video games. Just two
> feet and a pocket knife. I can't think of any generation that needs it more
> than the last two.

I agree with getting kids out and active and all that, and our son was
going camping in our version of back country before he was a year old,
but I'd be damned if I'd send him off with an all male group of
goofballs so he could learn
how to be culturally male.

The following excerpt is from alt.punk 3-6-00
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When I was in 5th grade, we moved to a new neighborhood, although it
was
still the same elementary school. My new neighbor kept asking me to
go
to a Boy Scout meeting, just to see if I liked it.

I refused to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, and one of the
leaders
asked me why--he probably thought it was a religious thing--and got an
earful about the Viet Nam War, and the rich people sending poor kids
to
die and kill innocent villagers.

The next day, on the school bus, my neighbor informed me that I was
persona non grata at the Boy Scout meetings.

To me, that flag is the flag of Joe McCarthy. It is the flag that
installed the dictator, Pinochet. It is the flag of Agent Orange. It
is the flag that flies over the School of the Americas, where the U.S.
military trained Central American soldiers in how to commit atrocities
for the greater good, "the greater good" being capitalism.
Again, it is the flag under which thousands of poor kids were forced
to
go to Viet Nam to kill and be killed, while the kids of the fat cats
were safe on college deferments.
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>
> nb
> camp.

--Bryan