"Pete C." > wrote in
:

> PeterLucas wrote:
>>
>> "Pete C." > wrote in
>> :
>>
>> >>
>> >> S'funny, I would have thought that Emergency Services training was
>> >> quite good over there. It is here.
>> >> And, given your scenario, if someone has just completed a Police
>> >> Rescue dive course, how long should they stand in the background
>> >> before you deem them "experienced" enough to cope with this sort
>> >> of job?
>> >
>> > If that is the actual course just completed, he wouldn't be "just
>> > certified" as there are prerequisites for such courses. Of course
>> > our jam lady may not have used the correct terminology.
>>
>> I've just been 'certified' in RAR (Road Accident Rescue...... 'Jaws
>> of Life', hydraulic rams etc).
>>
>> I'm sure as hell that if I get a call out to an MVA entrapment the
>> people inside aren't going to give a rats ass *when* I completed my
>> training...... they'll just want me to use my training to get them
>> out.
>
> Irrelevant, the diving in question is not rescue, it is removing
> bodies, they aren't saving anyone.


It started out as rescue. Which is where they needed *everyone* as
quickly as possible.

Which is probably where Melba's relative was thrown in at the deep end.


It's called 'on the job training'. Something you can't simulate in
practice.

I betcha by the end of this, Melba's "newly certified" relative is going
to be *very* experienced, the poor bugger :-(


>>
>> In a previous life (late '60s early 70s), I was a Salvage Diver.
>> *Before* there was a Police Dive Squad in Adelaide.
>> So yes, we did a lot of recovery work.
>
> Then you would know that if the person in question just got something
> like open water certification they sure as hell shouldn't be diving
> recovery in those conditions.


A diver, is a diver, is a diver.

It's water........ with stuff in it.

Like I said, how long do you think newly certified divers should stand
back and watch before you deem them 'experienced' enough?



>If there were actually live people to
> potentially save from air pockets in submerged vehicles you might make
> an exception, but not when you are just recovering bodies.


Until every vehicle is checked, they're never going to know.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"People sleep safely in their beds because rough men stand ready in
the night to do violence to those who would do them harm"
-- George Orwell