On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:23:42 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:05:49 -0500, "Pete C." >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 1, 9:34 pm, "Pete C." > wrote:
>> >> > Stan Horwitz wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > In article >, "Pete C." >
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > > jmcquown wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > I just heard about the I-35 West bridge between Minneapolis and St. Paul
>> >> > > > > collapsing, sending cars plunging into the Mississippi River. Please check
>> >> > > > > in and let us know you're okay!
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > Jill
>> >> >
>> >> > > > Looks pretty bad, not just one section falling, the whole damn thing
>> >> > > > came down. Already three confirmed fatalities and I don't think they
>> >> > > > even have any info back from divers yet.
>> >> >
>> >> > > Large parts of the infrastructure here in the states are poorly
>> >> > > maintained, yet billions of dollars are sent to Iraq. Insane! I am truly
>> >> > > sorry for the families who lost people in that bridge collapse.
>> >> >
>> >> > The billions sent to Iraq are a drop in the bucket
>> >>
>> >> EXCUSE ME!?!? Just "a drop in the bucket"????
>> >
>> >Compare a few hundred billion to the many trillions of the national
>> >budget. Iraq is a drop in the bucket, don't let the "billion" fool you,
>> >relative to the total national budget, Iraq is the equivalent of your
>> >morning coffee budget.
>> >
>> as of oct 2006:
>>
>> The empirical total of this lying crime in Iraq is $450 billion—that’s
>> what we’ve spent so far. An extremely conservative estimate is another
>> $550 billion for whenever we get the hell out of there and health care
>> costs for the wounded. A cool trillion dollars, easy, all for nothing
>> but horror, shame, death and international revulsion.
>>
>> That’s $9,480.86 per American family, money that will be paid out by
>> the American middle class next 30 years (one could tack on another
>> $300 billion for interest, but we’ll keep it simple and conservative).
>> Our corporate media tries to ignore it, but every day more and more
>> Americans are becoming aware and infuriated at this incredible waste
>> of such a vast fortune.
>
>I for one do not consider national defense a waste. Perhaps in you
>idealistic fantasy communist world everyone lives together in peace and
>there are no terrorists. I happen to live in the real world and am aware
>of the real world dangers the terrorists and their supporters.
>
>Iraq at present is a good example of why we can't negotiate some sort of
>peace with the terrorists. The culture of the entire middle east is one
>of violence, lies and extremism as the continuing sectarian violence
>clearly shows. If you think you have negotiated some sort of peace with
>them, while you have you head happily buried in the sand, they are
>quietly rearming and preparing to attack you yet again.
>

typical right-wing straw man. no one said we don't need to spend
money on defense. i said the war in iraq has made the terrorism
problem worse, not better.

>>
>> <http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/009046.php>
>>
>> ...but maybe you drink a **** of a lot of coffee.
>
>Two cups each morning. Don't think that counts as a lot.
>
have you spent nearly $10,000 dollars since march 2003? that's your
family's tab for the war in iraq, and climbing.
>> >>
>> >> > and while not being particularly well spent are at least being thrown in the
>> >> > direction of a very real threat.
>> >>
>> >> Are you one of those folks who believe that Saddam Hussein was
>> >> involved in the 9-11 attacks, perhaps even after the Liar-in-Chief
>> >> admitted he was not?
>> >
>> >No, I'm one of the folks who knows the real story with the WMDs from
>> >someone who was in Iraq on the UNSCOM team and saw them first hand.
>> >nwhat
>> and what is the 'real story,' pray tell? they were shipped to syria?
>> not even bush is rash enough to peddle that tale.
>
>The real story of what Saddam did with them during the years that
>Clinton and company had their heads in the sand and were undermining our
>intelligence services? If we're lucky, what really happened to them is
>Saddam hid them really well and now everyone who knew where they are
>hidden is dead.
>
more right-wing bullshit. did clinton ignore a report saying al qaeda
was likely to soon attack america, probably by plane, in august 2001?
nope. it was the decider-in-chief.
>>
>> why is this person saw them first hand talking to you and not the
>> media? no one else seems to 'know' the facts.
>
>How many UNSCOM team members have you seen talking to the media?
>

only the ones who couldn't find any w.m.d.'s. they had to leave iraq
because bush decided to invade anyway. too bad.

your pal,
blake