On Aug 15, 12:42 am, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
> The Truthful Assh0le > wrote:
>
> >On Aug 14, 12:15 am, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
> >> Haagen Dazs is a made up name for an ice cream that was
> >> developed by marketing formulists back before there were any
> >> premium ice creams.
>
> >> Then people who knew what ice cream really was got
> >> themselves some marketing geeks to help sell their stuff.
>
> >But unlike B&J, they haven't started putting in crap to save on
> >ingredient costs.
>
> http://www.haagen-dazs.com/reserve/
>
> What's "reserve" about mix-ins?
A desperate attempt to change the subject to Haagen-Dazs' "marketing"
because you can't win the quality argument?
>
> HD is a pretentious pile of marketing dreck.
>
This argument could go on for a long time, but you're arguing the
losing side.
This isn't about rhetorical skills. If we switched positions, I could
never defend your position. You are so completely wrong that anyone
else who is still reading this thread is probably shaking their head,
thinking, "I thought that Blair was one of the smart people on
r.f.cooking. Why is he just digging himself in deeper?"
>
> >> Now HD is probably the 5th or 6th best ice cream in any
> >> case it appears in.
>
> >Boy, you must shop at stores with huge varieties of ice cream brands.
> >So tell me, what nationally known brand is better? How about Edy's/
> >Dreyer's, who put in "chocolate" chips made with vegetable
> >shortening? Breyer's, thickened with tara gum to avoid using as much
> >expensive butterfat? You tell me. Back up your claim. Name 5 or 6.
>
> Breyer's has always been icy crap.
Breyer's has an "All Natural" line. B&J doesn't, maybe because it
would call attention to the fact that some of their ice creams ARE NOT
all natural, whereas Haagen-Dasz is all natural.
>
> Dreyer's is better, and I don't buy their chocolate chip.
Edy's/Dreyer's, which I buy because it's cheap, is not first rate ice
cream. It isn't in the same league with Haagen-Dazs. Breyer's (icy
crap) Chocolate Chip is all natural. Too bad Dreyer's can't make the
same claim. Breyer's (icy crap) Chocolate Chip sounds good right now,
and we have some in the freezer.
> Ben and Jerry's is better by a ton.
They're coasting on a reputation they earned in the past, back when
they used all natural ingredients. Read this:
"Ben & Jerry's misleads customers by falsely claiming that some of its
ice cream and frozen yogurt products are 'All Natural,' when they
contain artificial flavors, hydrogenated oils, or other factory-made
substances, according to a complaint filed today by the nonprofit
Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI). The group wants the
Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to take enforcement action against
the company, a unit of the multinational food conglomerate Unilever."
source--
http://www.cspinet.org/new/200207301.html
If you don't recognize the domain, it's the Center for Science in the
Public Interest's own website.
> Bluebell is definitely better.
Are you on drugs? The following is for their Butterscotch Nut flavor:
Ingredients: Milk, cream, sugar, skim milk, roasted almonds (almonds,
partially hydrogenated soybean oil, salt), corn syrup, high fructose
corn syrup, brown sugar, coconut oil, modified food starch, natural
and artificial flavor, salt, cellulose gum, vegetable gums (guar,
carrageenan, carob bean), soy mono- and diglycerides, artificial color
(includes Red 40).
source--
http://www.allbusiness.com/agricultu.../602646-1.html
Haagen-Dazs doesn't put crap like that in their products.
> The stuff in the Dove bars is better.
Let's look at the ice cream in the Dove bars:
Ingredients:
Ice Cream: Cream, Skim Milk, Milk, Sugar, Corn Syrup, Natural Flavor,
Mono And Diglycerides, Carob Bean Gum, Guar Gum, Egg Yolks,
Carrageenan, Beta Carotene.
source--
http://www.supercow.com/products/icecream/dove.html
Let's see? What do they need the Mono And Diglycerides, Carob Bean
Gum, Guar Gum and Carrageenan for? Hmmm?
I like Dove bars, but the ice cream inside is not Haagen-Dazs quality.
> There are several small gelato companies stocking locally.
But you wrote, "Now HD is probably the 5th or 6th best ice cream in
any
case it appears in." You throw in a few nameless "gelato" companies,
and insist, I guess, that there are the requisite number "in any case
[HD] appears in."
Besides, isn't traditional gelato that diet (reduced fat) ice cream
(ice milk)?
>
> There's never any need to stoop to buying Haagen Dazs.
More for the rest of us. Haagen-Dazs sets the standard for
commercially available ice cream. B&J used to have high standards as
well, but after selling out to Unilever, they have dropped into the
next tier.
>
> --Blair
--Bryan