Serene Vannoy > wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>> Steve Pope wrote:
>
>>> There are dairy ingredients in Cheez-Whiz?
>>
>> Dairy by-products: Whey.
>
> Looks like it contains actual cheese to me:
>
> Cheese ( cheddar, mozzarella, and swiss), water, modified milk
> ingredients, sodium phosphates, salt and spice, mustard, color, sodium
> alginate, sorbic acid, and sodium.

That appears to be the Canadian Cheez Whiz (U.S. food labels would
not say "modified milk ingredients").

Cheez Whiz as known to the United States:

"Milk And Part-Skim Milk, Water, Whey, Milkfat, Sodium Phosphate,
Contains Less Than 2% Of Dried Corn Syrup, Salt, Worcestershire
Sauce (Vinegar, Water, Molasses, Corn Syrup, Salt, Sugar, Caramel
Color, Dried Garlic, Spice, Anchovies, Tamarind, Natural
Preservative, Annatto (Color), Oleoresin Paprika, Enzymes"

There is no actual cheese in those ingredients. There are
ingredients in there to make cheese, but collectively, it is not
cheese. At least not in my opinion.

-sw

Sqwertz wrote:
> Serene Vannoy > wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>> Steve Pope wrote:
>>>> There are dairy ingredients in Cheez-Whiz?
>>> Dairy by-products: Whey.
>> Looks like it contains actual cheese to me:
>>
>> Cheese ( cheddar, mozzarella, and swiss), water, modified milk
>> ingredients, sodium phosphates, salt and spice, mustard, color, sodium
>> alginate, sorbic acid, and sodium.
>
> That appears to be the Canadian Cheez Whiz (U.S. food labels would
> not say "modified milk ingredients").
>
> Cheez Whiz as known to the United States:
>
> "Milk And Part-Skim Milk, Water, Whey, Milkfat, Sodium Phosphate,
> Contains Less Than 2% Of Dried Corn Syrup, Salt, Worcestershire
> Sauce (Vinegar, Water, Molasses, Corn Syrup, Salt, Sugar, Caramel
> Color, Dried Garlic, Spice, Anchovies, Tamarind, Natural
> Preservative, Annatto (Color), Oleoresin Paprika, Enzymes"
>
> There is no actual cheese in those ingredients. There are
> ingredients in there to make cheese, but collectively, it is not
> cheese. At least not in my opinion.

The question was not "There's cheese in Cheez Whiz?" but "There are
dairy ingredients in Cheez-Whiz[sic]?" Milk and part-skim milk are
dairy ingredients, wouldn't you agree?

Serene

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Serene Vannoy > wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>> Serene Vannoy > wrote:
>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> Steve Pope wrote:
>>>>> There are dairy ingredients in Cheez-Whiz?
>>>> Dairy by-products: Whey.
>>> Looks like it contains actual cheese to me:
>>>
>>> Cheese ( cheddar, mozzarella, and swiss), water, modified milk
>>> ingredients, sodium phosphates, salt and spice, mustard, color, sodium
>>> alginate, sorbic acid, and sodium.
>>
>> That appears to be the Canadian Cheez Whiz (U.S. food labels would
>> not say "modified milk ingredients").
>>
>> Cheez Whiz as known to the United States:
>>
>> "Milk And Part-Skim Milk, Water, Whey, Milkfat, Sodium Phosphate,
>> Contains Less Than 2% Of Dried Corn Syrup, Salt, Worcestershire
>> Sauce (Vinegar, Water, Molasses, Corn Syrup, Salt, Sugar, Caramel
>> Color, Dried Garlic, Spice, Anchovies, Tamarind, Natural
>> Preservative, Annatto (Color), Oleoresin Paprika, Enzymes"
>>
>> There is no actual cheese in those ingredients. There are
>> ingredients in there to make cheese, but collectively, it is not
>> cheese. At least not in my opinion.
>
> The question was not "There's cheese in Cheez Whiz?" but "There are
> dairy ingredients in Cheez-Whiz[sic]?" Milk and part-skim milk are
> dairy ingredients, wouldn't you agree?

Your statement was: "Looks like it contains actual cheese to me".
And I already stated that it has whey in it - a definite dairy
product.

-sw

Serene Vannoy > wrote:

>The question was not "There's cheese in Cheez Whiz?" but "There are
>dairy ingredients in Cheez-Whiz[sic]?" Milk and part-skim milk are
>dairy ingredients, wouldn't you agree?

My interpretation of Steve's reply was that he answered in
the affirmative.

Steve

Sqwertz > wrote:

>Serene Vannoy > wrote:

>> Cheese ( cheddar, mozzarella, and swiss), water, modified milk
>> ingredients, sodium phosphates, salt and spice, mustard, color, sodium
>> alginate, sorbic acid, and sodium.

>That appears to be the Canadian Cheez Whiz (U.S. food labels would
>not say "modified milk ingredients").

>Cheez Whiz as known to the United States:

>"Milk And Part-Skim Milk, Water, Whey, Milkfat, Sodium Phosphate,
>Contains Less Than 2% Of Dried Corn Syrup, Salt, Worcestershire
>Sauce (Vinegar, Water, Molasses, Corn Syrup, Salt, Sugar, Caramel
>Color, Dried Garlic, Spice, Anchovies, Tamarind, Natural
>Preservative, Annatto (Color), Oleoresin Paprika, Enzymes"

>There is no actual cheese in those ingredients. There are
>ingredients in there to make cheese, but collectively, it is not
>cheese.

So as usual, you have to go outside the U.S. to find the real stuff.

Tangentially, a while back I stocked up on Kraft reduced fat
Cheddar-Mozzarella-Swiss cheese, which I thought was an odd
bu edible combination. (Very cheap at Grocery Outlet.) It can't
be a coincidence that the same combination appears in Canadian
Cheez-Whiz.

Steve

Steve Pope wrote:

> Tangentially, a while back I stocked up on Kraft reduced fat
> Cheddar-Mozzarella-Swiss cheese, which I thought was an odd
> bu edible combination. (Very cheap at Grocery Outlet.) It can't
> be a coincidence that the same combination appears in Canadian
> Cheez-Whiz.

I bought a couple of those as well. They were $1 for a 7 or 8 oz package.
I do kinda wonder about the background of that particular product... It
doesn't seem like the kind of product Kraft would decide to make from scratch.

-sw

Sqwertz > wrote:

> Cheez Whiz as known to the United States:
>
> "Milk And Part-Skim Milk, Water, Whey, Milkfat, Sodium Phosphate,
> Contains Less Than 2% Of Dried Corn Syrup, Salt, Worcestershire
> Sauce (Vinegar, Water, Molasses, Corn Syrup, Salt, Sugar, Caramel
> Color, Dried Garlic, Spice, Anchovies, Tamarind, Natural
> Preservative, Annatto (Color), Oleoresin Paprika, Enzymes"

I didn't even really look at those ingredients. But: OVER 2% of
sodium phosphate (more than the amount of salt) is tremendous for
any processed food product. I believe it's unheard of in any food
product in amounts greater than 2% - outside of Cheez Whiz, that is.

We could make it a food scavenger hunt: Find any food with greater
than 2% phosphates.

-sw

a while back I stocked up on Kraft reduced fat
Cheddar-Mozzarella-Swiss cheese

Get a can of Spam, and make some 'fusion' sushi rolls with it and the Cheese
Wheez - throw in a little chipotle sauce. Cut, serve, and well... you know
what to do next!

wjmark

my food page is disappearing in a couple of months - please enjoy the
visit...

http://www.geocities.com/wjmarkca/index.htm



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> a while back I stocked up on Kraft reduced fat
> Cheddar-Mozzarella-Swiss cheese
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> butterflygirl

Oh yes - slice the Spam into long thick julliens, and pan fry it first...

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> Get a can of Spam, and make some 'fusion' sushi rolls with it and the
> Cheese Wheez - throw in a little chipotle sauce. Cut, serve, and well...
> you know what to do next!
>
> wjmark
>
> my food page is disappearing in a couple of months - please enjoy the
> visit...
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> http://www.geocities.com/wjmarkca/index.htm
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>> a while back I stocked up on Kraft reduced fat
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