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A friend of mine gave this recipe to me , he is from Hong Kong , as he calls
it Gold stealing from Silver fried rice. Most Fried rice dishes are made from using left over rice, I'm sure most of us know how to make a very good fried rice as is so I'll just give you the ingredients here.. Enjoy ! Todd Gold Stealing the Silver Fried Rice 6 cups Cooked rice (we like jasmine rice , and should be day old or cold)-(the silver) 2 pair Chinese dried sausage (steamed & cut to bite size pieces) 6 Eggs beaten and scrambled ( the gold) 1/4 cup diced ham or Char sui (Chinese bbq pork)-optional as you already have the sausage 3 green onions minced or lettuce may be used as well 1/3 cup chicken broth ( this replaces the soy sauce used as not to discolor the rice) You can add peas or carrots if you like , but my good buddy To Sang (Lawrence) reminds me Chinese home cooking is Very simple , and being he grew up in Hong Kong I guess he knows alot more than me , but I'm learning........ Bright Days & good eats! Todd |
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Orchidguy wrote:
> A friend of mine gave this recipe to me , he is from Hong Kong , as he > calls it Gold stealing from Silver fried rice. > > Most Fried rice dishes are made from using left over rice, I'm sure most > of us know how to make a very good fried rice as is so I'll just give you > the ingredients here.. > Enjoy ! > Todd > > Gold Stealing the Silver Fried Rice > 6 cups Cooked rice (we like jasmine rice , and should be day old or > cold)-(the silver) > 2 pair Chinese dried sausage (steamed & cut to bite size pieces) > 6 Eggs beaten and scrambled ( the gold) > 1/4 cup diced ham or Char sui (Chinese bbq pork)-optional as you already > have the sausage > 3 green onions minced or lettuce may be used as well > 1/3 cup chicken broth ( this replaces the soy sauce used as not to > discolor the rice) > You can add peas or carrots if you like , but my good buddy To Sang > (Lawrence) reminds me Chinese home cooking is Very simple , and being he > grew up in Hong Kong I guess he knows alot more than me , but I'm > learning........ > Bright Days & good eats! > Todd From my experiments over the past few months to get the "restaurant" taste: - Chinese restaurants tend to use small/medium grain rice, not long grain - a rice cooker can be used to produce good results, so long as the rice is left in the cooker for 1 hour to reduce water content (the reason that people use rice from the refrigerator is because the low humidity reduces water content over 24 hours) - MOST important is the heat. I now make sure the wok is very hot & cook the rice in 3 portions at high temperature - I've been using ketchup manis (sweet soy sauce) is Asian recipes gtoomey |
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> - I've been using ketchup manis (sweet soy sauce) is Asian recipes
You should realize though that kecap is a purely Indonesian type of soy sauce, allthough the salty (kecap asin) version is a lot like the chinese dark soy sauce. AFAIK there is no replacement for the light soy sauce (Chinese & Japanese version). Wouter |
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WJ van den Berg wrote:
>> - I've been using ketchup manis (sweet soy sauce) is Asian recipes > > You should realize though that kecap is a purely Indonesian type of soy > sauce, allthough the salty (kecap asin) version is a lot like the > chinese dark soy sauce. AFAIK there is no replacement for the light soy > sauce (Chinese & Japanese version). > > Wouter I know. The sugar content seems to be a caramelised/toffee flavour & goes well in a pork spare rib marinade. I'm getting into the habbit of adding a little sugar to savoury Chinese dishes to balance the ying/yang. gtoomey |
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WJ van den Berg wrote:
>> - I've been using ketchup manis (sweet soy sauce) is Asian recipes > > You should realize though that kecap is a purely Indonesian type of soy > sauce, allthough the salty (kecap asin) version is a lot like the > chinese dark soy sauce. AFAIK there is no replacement for the light soy > sauce (Chinese & Japanese version). > > Wouter I know. The sugar content seems to be a caramelised/toffee flavour & goes well in a pork spare rib marinade. I'm getting into the habbit of adding a little sugar to savoury Chinese dishes to balance the ying/yang. gtoomey |
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Well , I wasnt trying to get the so called "restaraunt" flavor , I was
talking about home cooking which is totally different that the restaraunt cooking , and correct the hotter the wok the better.......I have some of that ketchup manis too , I use it in bbq sauce alot of times... thanks for the input Todd "Gregory Toomey" > wrote in message ... > Orchidguy wrote: > > > A friend of mine gave this recipe to me , he is from Hong Kong , as he > > calls it Gold stealing from Silver fried rice. > > > > Most Fried rice dishes are made from using left over rice, I'm sure most > > of us know how to make a very good fried rice as is so I'll just give you > > the ingredients here.. > > Enjoy ! > > Todd > > > > Gold Stealing the Silver Fried Rice > > 6 cups Cooked rice (we like jasmine rice , and should be day old or > > cold)-(the silver) > > 2 pair Chinese dried sausage (steamed & cut to bite size pieces) > > 6 Eggs beaten and scrambled ( the gold) > > 1/4 cup diced ham or Char sui (Chinese bbq pork)-optional as you already > > have the sausage > > 3 green onions minced or lettuce may be used as well > > 1/3 cup chicken broth ( this replaces the soy sauce used as not to > > discolor the rice) > > You can add peas or carrots if you like , but my good buddy To Sang > > (Lawrence) reminds me Chinese home cooking is Very simple , and being he > > grew up in Hong Kong I guess he knows alot more than me , but I'm > > learning........ > > Bright Days & good eats! > > Todd > > From my experiments over the past few months to get the "restaurant" taste: > - Chinese restaurants tend to use small/medium grain rice, not long grain > - a rice cooker can be used to produce good results, so long as the rice is > left in the cooker for 1 hour to reduce water content > (the reason that people use rice from the refrigerator is because the low > humidity reduces water content over 24 hours) > - MOST important is the heat. I now make sure the wok is very hot & cook the > rice in 3 portions at high temperature > - I've been using ketchup manis (sweet soy sauce) is Asian recipes > > gtoomey |
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Kecap Manis works great for marinating pork. For satay as well; smallish
chunks (4*2*2cm) or strips of pork filet, marinate in kecap manis, sambal oelek (chili paste) or any sambal of your choice, and garlic. Minimum 3 hours, a whole night is even beter. Than on a skewer and on the grill or bbq. Serve with easy warm peanut sauce; 2 cups of peanutbutter, 2 table spoons of cane sugar, some more sambal, some kecap and 1/2 cup of coconut milk, heat through. Hmm :-) This probably not-very-authentic method has become part of dutch cuisine by now :-) > I'm getting into the habbit of adding a little sugar to savoury Chinese > dishes to balance the ying/yang. Try some gingersyrup (right translation? not sure) this works great! It has an extra 'zing' to it :-) |
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Gregory Toomey wrote:
> Orchidguy wrote: > > >>A friend of mine gave this recipe to me , he is from Hong Kong , as he >>calls it Gold stealing from Silver fried rice. >> >>Most Fried rice dishes are made from using left over rice, I'm sure most >>of us know how to make a very good fried rice as is so I'll just give you >>the ingredients here.. >>Enjoy ! >>Todd >> >>Gold Stealing the Silver Fried Rice >>6 cups Cooked rice (we like jasmine rice , and should be day old or >>cold)-(the silver) >>2 pair Chinese dried sausage (steamed & cut to bite size pieces) >>6 Eggs beaten and scrambled ( the gold) >>1/4 cup diced ham or Char sui (Chinese bbq pork)-optional as you already >>have the sausage >>3 green onions minced or lettuce may be used as well >>1/3 cup chicken broth ( this replaces the soy sauce used as not to >>discolor the rice) >>You can add peas or carrots if you like , but my good buddy To Sang >>(Lawrence) reminds me Chinese home cooking is Very simple , and being he >>grew up in Hong Kong I guess he knows alot more than me , but I'm >>learning........ >>Bright Days & good eats! >>Todd > > > From my experiments over the past few months to get the "restaurant" taste: > - Chinese restaurants tend to use small/medium grain rice, not long grain > - a rice cooker can be used to produce good results, so long as the rice is > left in the cooker for 1 hour to reduce water content > (the reason that people use rice from the refrigerator is because the low > humidity reduces water content over 24 hours) > - MOST important is the heat. I now make sure the wok is very hot & cook the > rice in 3 portions at high temperature > - I've been using ketchup manis (sweet soy sauce) is Asian recipes > > gtoomey This is pretty late - but a tip: If you have to deal with short, sticky rice, or damp long grain, crack an egg over it in the pan. Mix it in, and the egg will coat and separate the grains somewhat. This makes an inauthentic Japanese style FR. It's still better than a clumpy mass. I also use chicken broth and white pepper, and add chopped green onions at the end. I think this may be authentic. Other things that I have put in fried rice, that are mostly not authentic: bean sprouts spam bacon (kind of heavy) hot dogs chopped up pastrami ham peas tofu celery peanuts pine nuts (these are really good) mexican hot sauce (tapatio works) pork ginger fake crab corn raisins curry powder (ok, it's not FR anymore) Go easy on the extras, because the main flavor's the broth, salt, pepper, eggs, and onion at the end. I usually use a cast iron skillet, because that's what's on the stove, pretty much all the time. It works as good as a wok. and it's usually ready to go because it just had something else fried up in it. Also, for a little extra flavor, I like to burn the rice a little. |
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Gregory Toomey > wrote in
: [snip] > From my experiments over the past few months to get the "restaurant" > taste: - Chinese restaurants tend to use small/medium grain rice, not > long grain - a rice cooker can be used to produce good results, so > long as the rice is left in the cooker for 1 hour to reduce water > content (the reason that people use rice from the refrigerator is > because the low humidity reduces water content over 24 hours) > - MOST important is the heat. I now make sure the wok is very hot & > cook the rice in 3 portions at high temperature > - I've been using ketchup manis (sweet soy sauce) is Asian recipes I have an Indonesian fried rice recipe that uses ketjap manis, tamarind, and turmeric, red chilli powder, fresh chillies, and cumin (I think). It's pretty good but nothing like the Chinese version. sq |
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Gregory Toomey > wrote in
: [snip] > From my experiments over the past few months to get the "restaurant" > taste: - Chinese restaurants tend to use small/medium grain rice, not > long grain - a rice cooker can be used to produce good results, so > long as the rice is left in the cooker for 1 hour to reduce water > content (the reason that people use rice from the refrigerator is > because the low humidity reduces water content over 24 hours) > - MOST important is the heat. I now make sure the wok is very hot & > cook the rice in 3 portions at high temperature > - I've been using ketchup manis (sweet soy sauce) is Asian recipes I have an Indonesian fried rice recipe that uses ketjap manis, tamarind, and turmeric, red chilli powder, fresh chillies, and cumin (I think). It's pretty good but nothing like the Chinese version. sq |
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mroo philpott-smythe wrote:
> Gregory Toomey > wrote in > : > > [snip] > > >>From my experiments over the past few months to get the "restaurant" >>taste: - Chinese restaurants tend to use small/medium grain rice, not >>long grain - a rice cooker can be used to produce good results, so >>long as the rice is left in the cooker for 1 hour to reduce water >>content (the reason that people use rice from the refrigerator is >>because the low humidity reduces water content over 24 hours) >>- MOST important is the heat. I now make sure the wok is very hot & >>cook the rice in 3 portions at high temperature >>- I've been using ketchup manis (sweet soy sauce) is Asian recipes >> > > I have an Indonesian fried rice recipe that uses ketjap manis, tamarind, > and turmeric, red chilli powder, fresh chillies, and cumin (I think). > > It's pretty good but nothing like the Chinese version. Speaking of which, we're making a nasi goreng dinner this weekend. We use liberal amounts of sambal oolek, not chili powder, ketsup manis, laos, cumin, and coriander. -- Dan |
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mroo philpott-smythe wrote:
> Gregory Toomey > wrote in > : > > [snip] > > >>From my experiments over the past few months to get the "restaurant" >>taste: - Chinese restaurants tend to use small/medium grain rice, not >>long grain - a rice cooker can be used to produce good results, so >>long as the rice is left in the cooker for 1 hour to reduce water >>content (the reason that people use rice from the refrigerator is >>because the low humidity reduces water content over 24 hours) >>- MOST important is the heat. I now make sure the wok is very hot & >>cook the rice in 3 portions at high temperature >>- I've been using ketchup manis (sweet soy sauce) is Asian recipes >> > > I have an Indonesian fried rice recipe that uses ketjap manis, tamarind, > and turmeric, red chilli powder, fresh chillies, and cumin (I think). > > It's pretty good but nothing like the Chinese version. Speaking of which, we're making a nasi goreng dinner this weekend. We use liberal amounts of sambal oolek, not chili powder, ketsup manis, laos, cumin, and coriander. -- Dan |
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Dan Logcher > wrote in
: > mroo philpott-smythe wrote: >> Gregory Toomey > wrote in >> : >> [snip] >>>From my experiments over the past few months to get the "restaurant" >>>taste: - Chinese restaurants tend to use small/medium grain rice, not >>>long grain - a rice cooker can be used to produce good results, so >>>long as the rice is left in the cooker for 1 hour to reduce water >>>content (the reason that people use rice from the refrigerator is >>>because the low humidity reduces water content over 24 hours) >>>- MOST important is the heat. I now make sure the wok is very hot & >>>cook the rice in 3 portions at high temperature >>>- I've been using ketchup manis (sweet soy sauce) is Asian recipes >> I have an Indonesian fried rice recipe that uses ketjap manis, >> tamarind, and turmeric, red chilli powder, fresh chillies, and cumin >> (I think). >> It's pretty good but nothing like the Chinese version. > Speaking of which, we're making a nasi goreng dinner this weekend. > We use liberal amounts of sambal oolek, not chili powder, ketsup > manis, laos, cumin, and coriander. Sounds wonderful! What is your preferred brand of ketjap manis? I bought one in Singapore, I think it's called Wayang. It's really thick and a bit oversweet for my taste, so I usually compensate by putting in more tamarind and lime. sq |
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Dan Logcher > wrote in
: > mroo philpott-smythe wrote: >> Gregory Toomey > wrote in >> : >> [snip] >>>From my experiments over the past few months to get the "restaurant" >>>taste: - Chinese restaurants tend to use small/medium grain rice, not >>>long grain - a rice cooker can be used to produce good results, so >>>long as the rice is left in the cooker for 1 hour to reduce water >>>content (the reason that people use rice from the refrigerator is >>>because the low humidity reduces water content over 24 hours) >>>- MOST important is the heat. I now make sure the wok is very hot & >>>cook the rice in 3 portions at high temperature >>>- I've been using ketchup manis (sweet soy sauce) is Asian recipes >> I have an Indonesian fried rice recipe that uses ketjap manis, >> tamarind, and turmeric, red chilli powder, fresh chillies, and cumin >> (I think). >> It's pretty good but nothing like the Chinese version. > Speaking of which, we're making a nasi goreng dinner this weekend. > We use liberal amounts of sambal oolek, not chili powder, ketsup > manis, laos, cumin, and coriander. Sounds wonderful! What is your preferred brand of ketjap manis? I bought one in Singapore, I think it's called Wayang. It's really thick and a bit oversweet for my taste, so I usually compensate by putting in more tamarind and lime. sq |
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mroo philpott-smythe wrote:
> Dan Logcher > wrote in > : > >>mroo philpott-smythe wrote: >> >>>Gregory Toomey > wrote in : >>> > >>>[snip] >>> > >>>>From my experiments over the past few months to get the "restaurant" >>> >>>>taste: - Chinese restaurants tend to use small/medium grain rice, not >>>>long grain - a rice cooker can be used to produce good results, so >>>>long as the rice is left in the cooker for 1 hour to reduce water >>>>content (the reason that people use rice from the refrigerator is >>>>because the low humidity reduces water content over 24 hours) >>>>- MOST important is the heat. I now make sure the wok is very hot & >>>>cook the rice in 3 portions at high temperature >>>>- I've been using ketchup manis (sweet soy sauce) is Asian recipes >>>> > >>>I have an Indonesian fried rice recipe that uses ketjap manis, >>>tamarind, and turmeric, red chilli powder, fresh chillies, and cumin >>>(I think). >>> > >>>It's pretty good but nothing like the Chinese version. >>> > >>Speaking of which, we're making a nasi goreng dinner this weekend. >>We use liberal amounts of sambal oolek, not chili powder, ketsup >>manis, laos, cumin, and coriander. >> > > Sounds wonderful! > > What is your preferred brand of ketjap manis? > > I bought one in Singapore, I think it's called Wayang. It's really thick > and a bit oversweet for my taste, so I usually compensate by putting in > more tamarind and lime. We make a huge meal out of it, served with all the typical trimmings. I don't recall the brand, my dad has all the spices and whatnot. We used to use Cominexx exclusively, until I showed him that other brands were just as good if not better. I hate their Sambal, it's got no heat. -- Dan |
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Dan Logcher > wrote in
: > mroo philpott-smythe wrote: >> Dan Logcher > wrote in >> : >>>Speaking of which, we're making a nasi goreng dinner this weekend. >>>We use liberal amounts of sambal oolek, not chili powder, ketsup >>>manis, laos, cumin, and coriander. >> Sounds wonderful! >> What is your preferred brand of ketjap manis? >> I bought one in Singapore, I think it's called Wayang. It's really >> thick and a bit oversweet for my taste, so I usually compensate by >> putting in more tamarind and lime. > We make a huge meal out of it, served with all the typical trimmings. > I don't recall the brand, my dad has all the spices and whatnot. We > used to use Cominexx exclusively, until I showed him that other brands > were just as good if not better. I hate their Sambal, it's got no > heat. Maybe it's made in the U.S.A. %^D Just kidding. I'm very disappointed in the current chilli crop. I bought a ton of jalapenos and some long green "Indian peppers" as the market labeled them, and I can eat those things like apples, no heat and hardly any flavour! I did get out my spice catalogs yesterday and circled all the different hot dried chillies that I plan to buy - dundicuts, TienTsins, birds' eyes, sanaams ... My mother used to eat those little tiny birds' eye chillies, what we call chilli padi, like fruit. She said when you eat a chilli padi, people walking past your front gate should have tears in their eyes! sq |
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