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With Christmas coming up, I was wondering if there's any new or newish Asian
food-related books out there that are unique and noteworthy? Here's three I can think of: 1. Fuchsia Dunlop. _Land of Plenty: Authentic Sichuan Recipes_. This one is from 2003, and has been mentioned several times here, so I won't say more about it, except to say: It's a nearly 400 page book devoted only to the Sichuan cuisine! Get it! 2. James D. McCawley. _The Eater's Guide to Chinese Characters_. This is a much-awaited reprint of a book first published in 1984. It has also been mentioned numerous times on this group. If you have any interest in food-related Chinese characters for whatever reason, the late University of Chicago linguist's book is a must. Though he seems to have meant it as a way to read Chinese-language menus, I use it as a reference dictionary. 3. Alan Davidson. _Fish and Fish Dishes of Laos_. Ok, I only just saw this book on Amazon last night--I don't have a copy and I've never held one in my hands. But one of my favorite food books in my library is Davidson's _Fruit: A Connoisseur's Guide and Cookbook_. That hardcover tome is filled with wonderful, full-page drawings of what seems like most every edible fruit in the world. It give scientific names, a list of what the fruit is called in other languages, and excellent descriptions. It even includes the Pili nut, native to the Philippines, which I didn't think any non-Filipino knew of--it's the nut with the highest oil content, and is awesome roasted and coated in a sugar syrup. Well, that book has been long out of print, as has been Davidson's _Seafood_ book, which is advertised on the flap of my fruit book. But on my recent trip to NYC, I found out that some of his old seafood books had been reprinted! One is _North Atlantic Seafood_ and the other is _Mediterranean Seafood_. Both, like the fruit book, seem like excellent, one-of-a-kind reference books. And searching Amazon last night, I also came up with this intriguing-looking book on Laotion fish! Seems Davidson used to be the British ambassador to Laos. It was his first book, from 1975, and this is a reprint. If it is anything like his Fruit book, I'd highly recommend it, especially considering that we are damned lucky that a book on the fish of Laos is being reprinted. I can't imagine the printing continuing for long. Oh, and there's also a reprint of his _Seafood of South-East Asia_! Has any one seen any of these Davidson books? He's the one who wrote the much acclaimed Oxford Companion to Food, which I've never looked at. http://tinyurl.com/6cnxy -- Laos book. http://tinyurl.com/3vf2n -- Seafood of SE Asia book. So, any other new books out there? I seem to recall reading about a new Goan cookbook somewhere. Peter |
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Hi Peter,
I'm just back from holidays & tried this place out, I don't know how good the book is but their restaurants are fantastic... to look at, dine in & the food is very good too. But I think the book is a little hard to come by. Only reference i have for it is here. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...449263-1320644 New Chinese Cuisine Tunglok group Hardcover 160 pages (March 31, 2004) Publisher - Editions Didier Millet ISBN - 9814068268 Just go have a look at their website... with a bucket under your chin please to avoid a messy keyboard. http://www.tunglok.com/ We were in LaoBeijing restaurant & the food was great. DC. "Peter Dy" > wrote in message . com... > With Christmas coming up, I was wondering if there's any new or newish Asian > food-related books out there that are unique and noteworthy? > > Here's three I can think of: > > 1. Fuchsia Dunlop. _Land of Plenty: Authentic Sichuan Recipes_. > This one is from 2003, and has been mentioned several times here, so I won't > say more about it, except to say: It's a nearly 400 page book devoted only > to the Sichuan cuisine! Get it! > > 2. James D. McCawley. _The Eater's Guide to Chinese Characters_. > This is a much-awaited reprint of a book first published in 1984. It has > also been mentioned numerous times on this group. If you have any interest > in food-related Chinese characters for whatever reason, the late University > of Chicago linguist's book is a must. Though he seems to have meant it as a > way to read Chinese-language menus, I use it as a reference dictionary. > > 3. Alan Davidson. _Fish and Fish Dishes of Laos_. > Ok, I only just saw this book on Amazon last night--I don't have a copy and > I've never held one in my hands. But one of my favorite food books in my > library is Davidson's _Fruit: A Connoisseur's Guide and Cookbook_. That > hardcover tome is filled with wonderful, full-page drawings of what seems > like most every edible fruit in the world. It give scientific names, a list > of what the fruit is called in other languages, and excellent descriptions. > It even includes the Pili nut, native to the Philippines, which I didn't > think any non-Filipino knew of--it's the nut with the highest oil content, > and is awesome roasted and coated in a sugar syrup. > > Well, that book has been long out of print, as has been Davidson's _Seafood_ > book, which is advertised on the flap of my fruit book. But on my recent > trip to NYC, I found out that some of his old seafood books had been > reprinted! One is _North Atlantic Seafood_ and the other is _Mediterranean > Seafood_. Both, like the fruit book, seem like excellent, one-of-a-kind > reference books. And searching Amazon last night, I also came up with this > intriguing-looking book on Laotion fish! Seems Davidson used to be the > British ambassador to Laos. It was his first book, from 1975, and this is a > reprint. If it is anything like his Fruit book, I'd highly recommend it, > especially considering that we are damned lucky that a book on the fish of > Laos is being reprinted. I can't imagine the printing continuing for long. > Oh, and there's also a reprint of his _Seafood of South-East Asia_! > > Has any one seen any of these Davidson books? He's the one who wrote the > much acclaimed Oxford Companion to Food, which I've never looked at. > > http://tinyurl.com/6cnxy -- Laos book. > > http://tinyurl.com/3vf2n -- Seafood of SE Asia book. > > So, any other new books out there? I seem to recall reading about a new > Goan cookbook somewhere. > > Peter > > > > |
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My one reservation on the Fuschia Dunlop book is that for all its
length, there aren't as many recipes as you would expect... she goes for the "recipe plus a 3-page essay" style of cookbook design, where each dish is placed in context and accompanied by an account of origin, personal reminiscence or detailed explanation. Which is fine and dandy in its own way - Sort of what I like in a cookbook actually, having cut my teeth on Yamuna Devi's "The Art of Indian Vegetarian Cooking" and Shizuo Tsuji's "Japanese Cooking - A Simple Art". Recently got Hi Soo Shin Hepinstall's "Growing Up in a Korean Kitchen" and it's along the same lines, even giving instructions for brewing Korean style soy sauce. I guess what I find a little sad is that Dunlop's is not as ambitious in scope as these other books, in terms of number of recipes or varieties of dishes covered. The two things I look to first are vegetable dishes, and sweets; there were far fewer vegetable dishes than I expected, and the section with recipes for sweets and street snacks was fleshed out by a bunch of descriptions of snacks for which no recipe was provided in the book. Interesting to read but *frustrating* in a cookbook. When I read about something in a cookbook I want to cook it, dammit! :-) That goes for meat curing too... Dunlop talks about lots of home meat curing going on in Sichuan, but gives a recipe for bacon only. Overall: the glass is 3/4 full. Points for tackling Sichuan cuisine, points for striving for authenticity, points for being detailed and interesting and unique... points deducted for making a big, big deal about how important it is in Sichuan cooking to cut the ingredients just so, and then not provide drawings (let alone photos) of most of the recipes. Points deducted for breathless excitement about using a cleaver :-) Points deducted for not including more recipes, and for assuming readers will most likely never have access to actual Chinese vegetables. I want a good Sichuan radish recipe dammit! :-) I also want more info about pickling and preserved food. My review above is festooned with smiley faces :-) to make the point that I do not hate Fuschia Dunlop or this book. I just wish it were more, and better. 2001 doesn't really count as new, but I recommend "Growing Up in a Korean Kitchen". On Alan Davidson: I guess he has written the definitive work on trifle. Also "The Oxford Companion to Food", but if it were my resume, I'd want to highlight the trifle book myself (title: "Trifle"). Davidson and his group are behind the VERY esoteric quarterly magazine or small food journal "Petits Propos Culinaires". Go take a look! A subscription would be a great Christmas present if the recipient is just crazy interested in all food, from the Meditteranean through Eastern Europe, Africa, and all parts of Asia, and all historical periods, including points such as * Analysis of actual menus and dishes served at the Lord Mayor of London's annual banquet in the 1700's * Fact: At certain times of year, wild partidges in parts of Greece may be toxic to humans! (Not only a fact, but a named fact: "coturnism") * Dried wild fruits of Iran krnntp Peter Dy wrote: > With Christmas coming up, I was wondering if there's any new or newish Asian > food-related books out there that are unique and noteworthy? > > Here's three I can think of: > > 1. Fuchsia Dunlop. _Land of Plenty: Authentic Sichuan Recipes_. > This one is from 2003, and has been mentioned several times here, so I won't > say more about it, except to say: It's a nearly 400 page book devoted only > to the Sichuan cuisine! Get it! > > 2. James D. McCawley. _The Eater's Guide to Chinese Characters_. > This is a much-awaited reprint of a book first published in 1984. It has > also been mentioned numerous times on this group. If you have any interest > in food-related Chinese characters for whatever reason, the late University > of Chicago linguist's book is a must. Though he seems to have meant it as a > way to read Chinese-language menus, I use it as a reference dictionary. > > 3. Alan Davidson. _Fish and Fish Dishes of Laos_. > Ok, I only just saw this book on Amazon last night--I don't have a copy and > I've never held one in my hands. But one of my favorite food books in my > library is Davidson's _Fruit: A Connoisseur's Guide and Cookbook_. That > hardcover tome is filled with wonderful, full-page drawings of what seems > like most every edible fruit in the world. It give scientific names, a list > of what the fruit is called in other languages, and excellent descriptions. > It even includes the Pili nut, native to the Philippines, which I didn't > think any non-Filipino knew of--it's the nut with the highest oil content, > and is awesome roasted and coated in a sugar syrup. > > Well, that book has been long out of print, as has been Davidson's _Seafood_ > book, which is advertised on the flap of my fruit book. But on my recent > trip to NYC, I found out that some of his old seafood books had been > reprinted! One is _North Atlantic Seafood_ and the other is _Mediterranean > Seafood_. Both, like the fruit book, seem like excellent, one-of-a-kind > reference books. And searching Amazon last night, I also came up with this > intriguing-looking book on Laotion fish! Seems Davidson used to be the > British ambassador to Laos. It was his first book, from 1975, and this is a > reprint. If it is anything like his Fruit book, I'd highly recommend it, > especially considering that we are damned lucky that a book on the fish of > Laos is being reprinted. I can't imagine the printing continuing for long. > Oh, and there's also a reprint of his _Seafood of South-East Asia_! > > Has any one seen any of these Davidson books? He's the one who wrote the > much acclaimed Oxford Companion to Food, which I've never looked at. > > http://tinyurl.com/6cnxy -- Laos book. > > http://tinyurl.com/3vf2n -- Seafood of SE Asia book. > > So, any other new books out there? I seem to recall reading about a new > Goan cookbook somewhere. > > Peter > > > > |
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Oh also: Vote!
(fellow US citizens of alt.food.asian) I voted this morning (Ohio) at around 6:30 when the polls opened, but I guess right now (11AM ET) there are tremendous lines outside the polls, and there already were at 7:30, even out in the middle of nowhere, according to a co-worker, who is registered in a more rural area of the county. krnntp KR wrote: > My one reservation on the Fuschia Dunlop book is that for all its > length, there aren't as many recipes as you would expect... she goes for > the "recipe plus a 3-page essay" style of cookbook design, where each > dish is placed in context and accompanied by an account of origin, > personal reminiscence or detailed explanation. Which is fine and dandy > in its own way - Sort of what I like in a cookbook actually, having cut > my teeth on Yamuna Devi's "The Art of Indian Vegetarian Cooking" and > Shizuo Tsuji's "Japanese Cooking - A Simple Art". Recently got Hi Soo > Shin Hepinstall's "Growing Up in a Korean Kitchen" and it's along the > same lines, even giving instructions for brewing Korean style soy sauce. > I guess what I find a little sad is that Dunlop's is not as ambitious in > scope as these other books, in terms of number of recipes or varieties > of dishes covered. The two things I look to first are vegetable dishes, > and sweets; there were far fewer vegetable dishes than I expected, and > the section with recipes for sweets and street snacks was fleshed out by > a bunch of descriptions of snacks for which no recipe was provided in > the book. Interesting to read but *frustrating* in a cookbook. When I > read about something in a cookbook I want to cook it, dammit! :-) That > goes for meat curing too... Dunlop talks about lots of home meat curing > going on in Sichuan, but gives a recipe for bacon only. Overall: the > glass is 3/4 full. Points for tackling Sichuan cuisine, points for > striving for authenticity, points for being detailed and interesting and > unique... points deducted for making a big, big deal about how important > it is in Sichuan cooking to cut the ingredients just so, and then not > provide drawings (let alone photos) of most of the recipes. Points > deducted for breathless excitement about using a cleaver :-) Points > deducted for not including more recipes, and for assuming readers will > most likely never have access to actual Chinese vegetables. I want a > good Sichuan radish recipe dammit! :-) I also want more info about > pickling and preserved food. > > My review above is festooned with smiley faces :-) to make the point > that I do not hate Fuschia Dunlop or this book. I just wish it were > more, and better. > > 2001 doesn't really count as new, but I recommend "Growing Up in a > Korean Kitchen". > > On Alan Davidson: I guess he has written the definitive work on trifle. > Also "The Oxford Companion to Food", but if it were my resume, I'd want > to highlight the trifle book myself (title: "Trifle"). > > Davidson and his group are behind the VERY esoteric quarterly magazine > or small food journal "Petits Propos Culinaires". Go take a look! A > subscription would be a great Christmas present if the recipient is just > crazy interested in all food, from the Meditteranean through Eastern > Europe, Africa, and all parts of Asia, and all historical periods, > including points such as > * Analysis of actual menus and dishes served at the Lord Mayor of > London's annual banquet in the 1700's > * Fact: At certain times of year, wild partidges in parts of Greece may > be toxic to humans! (Not only a fact, but a named fact: "coturnism") > * Dried wild fruits of Iran > > krnntp > > Peter Dy wrote: > >> With Christmas coming up, I was wondering if there's any new or newish >> Asian food-related books out there that are unique and noteworthy? >> >> Here's three I can think of: >> >> 1. Fuchsia Dunlop. _Land of Plenty: Authentic Sichuan Recipes_. >> This one is from 2003, and has been mentioned several times here, so I >> won't say more about it, except to say: It's a nearly 400 page book >> devoted only to the Sichuan cuisine! Get it! >> >> 2. James D. McCawley. _The Eater's Guide to Chinese Characters_. >> This is a much-awaited reprint of a book first published in 1984. It >> has also been mentioned numerous times on this group. If you have any >> interest in food-related Chinese characters for whatever reason, the >> late University of Chicago linguist's book is a must. Though he seems >> to have meant it as a way to read Chinese-language menus, I use it as >> a reference dictionary. >> >> 3. Alan Davidson. _Fish and Fish Dishes of Laos_. >> Ok, I only just saw this book on Amazon last night--I don't have a >> copy and I've never held one in my hands. But one of my favorite food >> books in my library is Davidson's _Fruit: A Connoisseur's Guide and >> Cookbook_. That hardcover tome is filled with wonderful, full-page >> drawings of what seems like most every edible fruit in the world. It >> give scientific names, a list of what the fruit is called in other >> languages, and excellent descriptions. It even includes the Pili nut, >> native to the Philippines, which I didn't think any non-Filipino knew >> of--it's the nut with the highest oil content, and is awesome roasted >> and coated in a sugar syrup. >> >> Well, that book has been long out of print, as has been Davidson's >> _Seafood_ book, which is advertised on the flap of my fruit book. But >> on my recent trip to NYC, I found out that some of his old seafood >> books had been reprinted! One is _North Atlantic Seafood_ and the >> other is _Mediterranean Seafood_. Both, like the fruit book, seem >> like excellent, one-of-a-kind reference books. And searching Amazon >> last night, I also came up with this intriguing-looking book on >> Laotion fish! Seems Davidson used to be the British ambassador to >> Laos. It was his first book, from 1975, and this is a reprint. If it >> is anything like his Fruit book, I'd highly recommend it, especially >> considering that we are damned lucky that a book on the fish of Laos >> is being reprinted. I can't imagine the printing continuing for long. >> Oh, and there's also a reprint of his _Seafood of South-East Asia_! >> >> Has any one seen any of these Davidson books? He's the one who wrote >> the much acclaimed Oxford Companion to Food, which I've never looked at. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/6cnxy -- Laos book. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/3vf2n -- Seafood of SE Asia book. >> >> So, any other new books out there? I seem to recall reading about a >> new Goan cookbook somewhere. >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> > |
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For the record, I voted for KERRY
KR wrote: > Oh also: Vote! > (fellow US citizens of alt.food.asian) > > I voted this morning (Ohio) at around 6:30 when the polls opened, but I > guess right now (11AM ET) there are tremendous lines outside the polls, > and there already were at 7:30, even out in the middle of nowhere, > according to a co-worker, who is registered in a more rural area of the > county. > > krnntp > > KR wrote: > >> My one reservation on the Fuschia Dunlop book is that for all its >> length, there aren't as many recipes as you would expect... she goes >> for the "recipe plus a 3-page essay" style of cookbook design, where >> each dish is placed in context and accompanied by an account of >> origin, personal reminiscence or detailed explanation. Which is fine >> and dandy in its own way - Sort of what I like in a cookbook actually, >> having cut my teeth on Yamuna Devi's "The Art of Indian Vegetarian >> Cooking" and Shizuo Tsuji's "Japanese Cooking - A Simple Art". >> Recently got Hi Soo Shin Hepinstall's "Growing Up in a Korean Kitchen" >> and it's along the same lines, even giving instructions for brewing >> Korean style soy sauce. I guess what I find a little sad is that >> Dunlop's is not as ambitious in scope as these other books, in terms >> of number of recipes or varieties of dishes covered. The two things I >> look to first are vegetable dishes, and sweets; there were far fewer >> vegetable dishes than I expected, and the section with recipes for >> sweets and street snacks was fleshed out by a bunch of descriptions of >> snacks for which no recipe was provided in the book. Interesting to >> read but *frustrating* in a cookbook. When I read about something in a >> cookbook I want to cook it, dammit! :-) That goes for meat curing >> too... Dunlop talks about lots of home meat curing going on in >> Sichuan, but gives a recipe for bacon only. Overall: the glass is 3/4 >> full. Points for tackling Sichuan cuisine, points for striving for >> authenticity, points for being detailed and interesting and unique... >> points deducted for making a big, big deal about how important it is >> in Sichuan cooking to cut the ingredients just so, and then not >> provide drawings (let alone photos) of most of the recipes. Points >> deducted for breathless excitement about using a cleaver :-) Points >> deducted for not including more recipes, and for assuming readers will >> most likely never have access to actual Chinese vegetables. I want a >> good Sichuan radish recipe dammit! :-) I also want more info about >> pickling and preserved food. >> >> My review above is festooned with smiley faces :-) to make the point >> that I do not hate Fuschia Dunlop or this book. I just wish it were >> more, and better. >> >> 2001 doesn't really count as new, but I recommend "Growing Up in a >> Korean Kitchen". >> >> On Alan Davidson: I guess he has written the definitive work on >> trifle. Also "The Oxford Companion to Food", but if it were my resume, >> I'd want to highlight the trifle book myself (title: "Trifle"). >> >> Davidson and his group are behind the VERY esoteric quarterly magazine >> or small food journal "Petits Propos Culinaires". Go take a look! A >> subscription would be a great Christmas present if the recipient is >> just crazy interested in all food, from the Meditteranean through >> Eastern Europe, Africa, and all parts of Asia, and all historical >> periods, including points such as >> * Analysis of actual menus and dishes served at the Lord Mayor of >> London's annual banquet in the 1700's >> * Fact: At certain times of year, wild partidges in parts of Greece >> may be toxic to humans! (Not only a fact, but a named fact: "coturnism") >> * Dried wild fruits of Iran >> >> krnntp >> >> Peter Dy wrote: >> >>> With Christmas coming up, I was wondering if there's any new or >>> newish Asian food-related books out there that are unique and >>> noteworthy? >>> >>> Here's three I can think of: >>> >>> 1. Fuchsia Dunlop. _Land of Plenty: Authentic Sichuan Recipes_. >>> This one is from 2003, and has been mentioned several times here, so >>> I won't say more about it, except to say: It's a nearly 400 page book >>> devoted only to the Sichuan cuisine! Get it! >>> >>> 2. James D. McCawley. _The Eater's Guide to Chinese Characters_. >>> This is a much-awaited reprint of a book first published in 1984. It >>> has also been mentioned numerous times on this group. If you have >>> any interest in food-related Chinese characters for whatever reason, >>> the late University of Chicago linguist's book is a must. Though he >>> seems to have meant it as a way to read Chinese-language menus, I use >>> it as a reference dictionary. >>> >>> 3. Alan Davidson. _Fish and Fish Dishes of Laos_. >>> Ok, I only just saw this book on Amazon last night--I don't have a >>> copy and I've never held one in my hands. But one of my favorite >>> food books in my library is Davidson's _Fruit: A Connoisseur's Guide >>> and Cookbook_. That hardcover tome is filled with wonderful, >>> full-page drawings of what seems like most every edible fruit in the >>> world. It give scientific names, a list of what the fruit is called >>> in other languages, and excellent descriptions. It even includes the >>> Pili nut, native to the Philippines, which I didn't think any >>> non-Filipino knew of--it's the nut with the highest oil content, and >>> is awesome roasted and coated in a sugar syrup. >>> >>> Well, that book has been long out of print, as has been Davidson's >>> _Seafood_ book, which is advertised on the flap of my fruit book. >>> But on my recent trip to NYC, I found out that some of his old >>> seafood books had been reprinted! One is _North Atlantic Seafood_ >>> and the other is _Mediterranean Seafood_. Both, like the fruit book, >>> seem like excellent, one-of-a-kind reference books. And searching >>> Amazon last night, I also came up with this intriguing-looking book >>> on Laotion fish! Seems Davidson used to be the British ambassador to >>> Laos. It was his first book, from 1975, and this is a reprint. If >>> it is anything like his Fruit book, I'd highly recommend it, >>> especially considering that we are damned lucky that a book on the >>> fish of Laos is being reprinted. I can't imagine the printing >>> continuing for long. Oh, and there's also a reprint of his _Seafood >>> of South-East Asia_! >>> >>> Has any one seen any of these Davidson books? He's the one who wrote >>> the much acclaimed Oxford Companion to Food, which I've never looked at. >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/6cnxy -- Laos book. >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/3vf2n -- Seafood of SE Asia book. >>> >>> So, any other new books out there? I seem to recall reading about a >>> new Goan cookbook somewhere. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > |
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KR wrote:
> My one reservation on the Fuschia Dunlop book is that for all its > length, there aren't as many recipes as you would expect... she goes for > the "recipe plus a 3-page essay" style of cookbook design, where each > dish is placed in context and accompanied by an account of origin, > personal reminiscence or detailed explanation. Which is fine and dandy > in its own way - Sort of what I like in a cookbook actually, having cut > my teeth on Yamuna Devi's "The Art of Indian Vegetarian Cooking" and > Shizuo Tsuji's "Japanese Cooking - A Simple Art". [snip] ... Dunlop talks about lots of home meat curing > going on in Sichuan, but gives a recipe for bacon only. Overall: the > glass is 3/4 full. Points for tackling Sichuan cuisine, points for > striving for authenticity, points for being detailed and interesting and > unique... points deducted for making a big, big deal about how important > it is in Sichuan cooking to cut the ingredients just so, and then not > provide drawings (let alone photos) of most of the recipes. Points > deducted for breathless excitement about using a cleaver :-) Points > deducted for not including more recipes, and for assuming readers will > most likely never have access to actual Chinese vegetables. I want a > good Sichuan radish recipe dammit! :-) I also want more info about > pickling and preserved food. > > My review above is festooned with smiley faces :-) to make the point > that I do not hate Fuschia Dunlop or this book. I just wish it were > more, and better. I agree with what you say about Dunlop's book. Not enough pix, not enough recipes. I'm usually working from the perspective of "What can I do with this chicken breast?" and the choices she offers are quite limited. OTOH, I love many of the recipes that ARE there. I'd buy it again, and I'd give it as a gift - but I still wanted more! Ian |
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