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Joe 16-01-2006 01:14 PM

White Tuna Sushi?
 
What is the actual fish? Having been in the seafood industry for years and
years, I can tell you that it is raw, but it sure didn't look or taste
anything like Tuna.

Also, Spicy tuna rolls... Any idea what is inside them?

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Dan Logcher 16-01-2006 02:17 PM

White Tuna Sushi?
 
Joe wrote:

> What is the actual fish? Having been in the seafood industry for years and
> years, I can tell you that it is raw, but it sure didn't look or taste
> anything like Tuna.


White tuna or Super White tuna? White tuna is typically bincho maguro or
albacore tuna and is pinkish in color, very soft. Super White tuna is a
bright white white, firm textured fish, most likely oilfish or escolar.

> Also, Spicy tuna rolls... Any idea what is inside them?


Varies from place to place. A typical spicy tuna consists of maguro, cucumber
or avacado, and a spicy mayo sauce al wrapped in an inside-out roll.

Occasionally I've been served tekka maki with dabs of sriracha sauce on top.
These places do not warrent a return trip. If it doesn't come with a spicy
mayo sauce, it isn't a spicy tuna roll. Spicy sauce varies greatly, but is
usually made with sriracha, mayo (Japanese or not), seseme oil, scallions,
and other spices.

--
Dan

James Silverton 16-01-2006 07:59 PM

White Tuna Sushi?
 
Dan wrote on Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:17:28 -0500:

??>> What is the actual fish? Having been in the seafood
??>> industry for years and years, I can tell you that it is
??>> raw, but it sure didn't look or taste anything like Tuna.

DL> White tuna or Super White tuna? White tuna is typically
DL> bincho maguro or albacore tuna and is pinkish in color,
DL> very soft. Super White tuna is a bright white white, firm
DL> textured fish, most likely oilfish or escolar.

We have discussed "White Tuna" or escolar before without
achieving any consensus. Many people, like me, get the runs
within a few hours of eating it as sushi; Dan apparently does
not. He's lucky because it tasted delicious the one time I ate
it. Many food safety agencies advise against eating it without
careful preparation and cooking. The problem is apparently a
very high fat or wax content.

Here's a typical web page about the problems but there are
several others from Canada, Australia and even Japan:-

http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/conta...ns/609_en.html

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland.


Dan Logcher 17-01-2006 01:52 AM

White Tuna Sushi?
 
James Silverton wrote:
> Dan wrote on Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:17:28 -0500:
>
> ??>> What is the actual fish? Having been in the seafood
> ??>> industry for years and years, I can tell you that it is
> ??>> raw, but it sure didn't look or taste anything like Tuna.
>
> DL> White tuna or Super White tuna? White tuna is typically
> DL> bincho maguro or albacore tuna and is pinkish in color,
> DL> very soft. Super White tuna is a bright white white, firm
> DL> textured fish, most likely oilfish or escolar.
>
> We have discussed "White Tuna" or escolar before without achieving any
> consensus. Many people, like me, get the runs within a few hours of
> eating it as sushi; Dan apparently does not. He's lucky because it
> tasted delicious the one time I ate it. Many food safety agencies advise
> against eating it without careful preparation and cooking. The problem
> is apparently a very high fat or wax content.
>
> Here's a typical web page about the problems but there are several
> others from Canada, Australia and even Japan:-
>
> http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/conta...ns/609_en.html


That would be Super White tuna. Many places have White tuna/Albacore listed
as Bincho Maguro. Not one place actually puts the real name of Super White
tuna.

I've eaten a large amount in one sitting and never had any ill effects, lucky me.

--
Dan

James Silverton 17-01-2006 03:50 PM

White Tuna Sushi?
 
Dan wrote on Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:52:01 -0500:

DL> James Silverton wrote:
??>> Dan wrote on Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:17:28 -0500:
??>>
??>>>> What is the actual fish? Having been in the seafood
??>>>> industry for years and years, I can tell you that it is
??>>>> raw, but it sure didn't look or taste anything like
??>>>> Tuna.
??>>
DL>>> White tuna or Super White tuna? White tuna is typically
DL>>> bincho maguro or albacore tuna and is pinkish in color,
DL>>> very soft. Super White tuna is a bright white white,
DL>>> firm textured fish, most likely oilfish or escolar.
??>>
??>> We have discussed "White Tuna" or escolar before without
??>> achieving any consensus. Many people, like me, get the
??>> runs within a few hours of eating it as sushi; Dan
??>> apparently does not. He's lucky because it tasted
??>> delicious the one time I ate it. Many food safety agencies
??>> advise against eating it without careful preparation and
??>> cooking. The problem is apparently a very high fat or wax
??>> content.
??>>
??>> Here's a typical web page about the problems but there are
??>> several others from Canada, Australia and even Japan:-
??>>
??>>
http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/conta...ns/609_en.html

DL> That would be Super White tuna. Many places have White
DL> tuna/Albacore listed as Bincho Maguro. Not one place
DL> actually puts the real name of Super White tuna.

DL> I've eaten a large amount in one sitting and never had any
DL> ill effects, lucky me.

I agree, I said you are lucky! However, the one (unfortunate)
time I ate escolar, I asked the chef what it was and he
definitely said "White Tuna" without any qualifier. It was in a
Chirashi (plain fish) selection and I asked because it tasted so
good! I've never come across the term "Super White Tuna" but I
have had slightly seared Albacore quite often and it's pretty
good!

James Silverton.


Dan Logcher 18-01-2006 03:25 AM

White Tuna Sushi?
 
James Silverton wrote:

> Dan wrote on Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:52:01 -0500:
>
> DL> James Silverton wrote:
> ??>> Dan wrote on Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:17:28 -0500:
> ??>>
> ??>>>> What is the actual fish? Having been in the seafood
> ??>>>> industry for years and years, I can tell you that it is
> ??>>>> raw, but it sure didn't look or taste anything like
> ??>>>> Tuna.
> ??>>
> DL>>> White tuna or Super White tuna? White tuna is typically
> DL>>> bincho maguro or albacore tuna and is pinkish in color,
> DL>>> very soft. Super White tuna is a bright white white,
> DL>>> firm textured fish, most likely oilfish or escolar.
> ??>>
> ??>> We have discussed "White Tuna" or escolar before without
> ??>> achieving any consensus. Many people, like me, get the
> ??>> runs within a few hours of eating it as sushi; Dan
> ??>> apparently does not. He's lucky because it tasted
> ??>> delicious the one time I ate it. Many food safety agencies
> ??>> advise against eating it without careful preparation and
> ??>> cooking. The problem is apparently a very high fat or wax
> ??>> content.
> ??>>
> ??>> Here's a typical web page about the problems but there are
> ??>> several others from Canada, Australia and even Japan:-
> ??>>
> ??>> http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/conta...ns/609_en.html
>
> DL> That would be Super White tuna. Many places have White
> DL> tuna/Albacore listed as Bincho Maguro. Not one place
> DL> actually puts the real name of Super White tuna.
>
> DL> I've eaten a large amount in one sitting and never had any
> DL> ill effects, lucky me.
>
> I agree, I said you are lucky! However, the one (unfortunate) time I ate
> escolar, I asked the chef what it was and he definitely said "White
> Tuna" without any qualifier. It was in a Chirashi (plain fish) selection
> and I asked because it tasted so good! I've never come across the term
> "Super White Tuna" but I have had slightly seared Albacore quite often
> and it's pretty good!


If its pinkish, its albacore. Its its bright white, its oilfish or escolar.
I've had seared albacore, and I much prefer it raw. I think the searing ruins
the tender, soft texture. Oilfish is meaty, much like a thick cut of hamachi.

I always get a straight answer when its albacore. They say bincho maguro, and its
always listed as white tuna. I never get a straight answer for super white.

Here's a sushi bar that lists them as such:
http://www.coastsushibar.com/menu.asp?menucat=156%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&menucatn ame=NIGIRI%20(TOGO)&locationid=000004

--
Dan


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