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Festivities on Saturday began around 5 pm, with the uncorking of another
few dozen bottles and the arrival of a dozen or so participants. In addition to the previous night's crew, Putnam Weekley and Alan Kerr arrived to add to the merriment and (in Putnam's case) to add some pictorial documentation of the event. Once again, I launch into action with the lighter wines first. A magnum of NV Allouchery-Perseval Brut Reserve beckons with a light appley-toasty nose, a very lithe and crisp bubbly. From there, my attention was turned to the array of Finger Lakes wines laid out by Steve Guattery with a little help from Mark Criden. First up was the '03 Dr. Frank Rkatsiteli, with an herbal nose of appley fruit and a light, slightly round mouthfeel. From there, I moved on to the '06 Dr. Frank Rkatsiteli, which by comparison is mineral-tinged and floral in the nose with a light, petillant feel to it. Another bubbly then makes an appearance, a NV Gobillard Brut Rosé, showing some dusty, strawberryish fruit and a tart, toasty impression on the palate. Now on to the Rieslings, starting with a 1992 Ch. Lafayette-Reneau Dry Riesling, with a nose dominated by petrol, and a palate impression pretty much dominated by petrol and acid and fairly shy on fruit. I found it interesting to try, even at this advanced age. From there it was on to the '05 Tierce Dry Riesling, which had a much lighter dose of petrol on the nose, and was light in body and shy on fruit, mostly showing acid and petrol. The '05 Shaw Riesling seemed to me that it might have been slightly corked and had limited Riesling character. For comparison, I had opened an '07 Dönnhoff Estate Riesling, which after the FL Rieslings seemed quite floral and mineral with a slightly creamy, off-dry palate feel and no shortage of fruit. After that, the '01 Robert Weil Riesling Spätlese (was there a vineyard designation on this? If so, I didn't get it) seemed closed and simple, showing little but sweetness on the palate. Now making an appearance is the '07 Dr. Frank Dry Riesling, with a sulfurous nose with some mineral character, and stony white stone fruit on the palate. There were more whites present than just Riesling, though, so next up was a '93 Chave Hermitage blanc, smelling of butter and roasted nuts, seemingly simple and a bit flat on the palate. For a change of pace, the next wine was the '04 Bellivère Coteau du Loir Vieilles Vignes Eparses, showing some characteristic Chenin fruit in the nose, quince and beeswax, tart and light on the palate, moderately fruity. To round out the white wine experience, I next turned to two Marc Angeli wines, the '04 La Lune and the '04 Fouchardes, both of which were dark yellow and showed little to me beyond a strong oxidative note. Perhaps I'm too sensitive to oxidative smells to get beyond them. But, wait! I almost overlooked the '06 Txomin Etxaniz Getaria, which unfortunately smelled mostly of sulfur but had the characteristic petillance and light body that I expected, marred for me, however, by the sulfur. Having finally worked my way through the whites (and cued by Larry Meehan's relocation of them to a separate table) I next moved on the bountiful array of reds on display. First up was the shocking 2006 Domaine Coudert Brouilly (totally different label albeit with a horse on it and no mention of Clos de Roilette), which was perfumed with bright fruit, juicily acidic and altogether tasty. Back to the Arbois with a 2006 Houillon Pupillin, which smelled of cinammon and tasted of baking spices and strawberries, a fun wine and altogether different from the '07 of the previous night. A brief excursion into the Loire was next, starting with the '90 Joguet Chinon 'La Chene Vert', with a meaty, herbal nose and lots of red fruit on the palate, cherries and more meat. Then on to the '00 Baudry Bourgueil 'La Croix Boisée' which sadly was corked. To salve my disappointment, I moved on to the Piedmontese wines, starting with a '64 Marchese di Barolo Barolo, smelling of stewed fruit and tomatoes, tasting almost Port-like, with acids and oxidative flavors following. This wine might very well have been fresher earlier in the evening, but again the lack of Joe Perry to call me over to try something may have cost me here. No such problems, though, with the '95 Cappellano 'Otin Fiori' Barolo, which had a lovely nose of tar and tobacco, medium body on the palate, lots of plummy fruit and a tarry finish, a fine testament to the late Baldo's winemaking skills. Then on to the '96 Vietti Barolo Rocche, which smelled a tad medicinal amidst the red fruit, was moderately acidic and fairly primary. Not a bad wine by any stretch, but a bit outclassed by the Cappellano. From the Piedmont to the Rhone Valley, I next turned my attention to the enticing selection of Syrahs laid out before me. Starting with the few drops remaining of the '88 Chave Hermitage, I glimpsed the hints of gamey red berries that were evident in the nose. Why is it that the Chaves go first at these events? OK, that is a rhetorical question... Fortunately, there is no shortage of the '99 Jamet Cote-Rotie, which smells herbal with Band-Aid notes but tastes of red berry fruit amid smoked meat and flowers. Yummy package. But then there's the '98 Allemand Cornas Reynard, with a nose of sweet red fruit and a floral hint and a suave mix of acidity and lush red fruit on the palate with no hint of the sauvage. An elegant Cornas, if such a thing can be fathomed. Then, to add to the picture there was the '99 Allemand Cornas Chaillot, which had a spicy note to the nose alongside the plentiful berry fruit, and filled the mouth with flavors of fruit and spice with refreshing acidity. A great pair of wines from M. Allemand, but quite different from one another. Next up was the near-legendary '99 Gilles-Robin Crozes-Hermitage Cuvée Alberic Bouvet, the subject of many a FL Jim post, showing a classic nose of smoked meat and berry fruit, with more of the same on the palate in a nicely acidic package. And at last, a non-empty bottle of '85 Chave Hermitage on diplay. And well worth the wait it is, hitting me with a nose of minerals, gamey meat and red fruit, reprised on the palate with fine acidity and fully resolved tannins. Amid all these lovely Syrahs, this wine still stands out for its classic beauty and vitality. But we're not done with Rhonish Syrahs yet, oh, no. Now it's on to the '96 Ogier Côte-Rôtie, with a meaty nose overlaying sweet red fruit and a sappy, piney note too. On the palate, it's about acids and minerals with more of that sweet red fruit. Nice, but a bit outclassed by its neighbors. And continuing on with the leitmotif (no themes here) of '99, we have the '99 Texier Hermitage, smelling of bright red fruit with a bit of heat, crisp, bright fruit on the palate with some earthy notes. And in a lineup of N Rhone Syrahs like this, where would we be without the ESJ? The first bottle, a '97 Edmunds St. John Syrah Fenaughty Vineyard seeme corked to me, but Geo quite adamantly opposed that view, saying that though it was off in some it wasn't cork taint. To me, the musty cardboard scents said otherwise, though. Meanwhile, the '01 Edmunds St. John Syrah 'Wylie-Fenaughty' that I had brought was showing quite well, herbal berry fruit in the nose and richly fruity on the palate with herbal influences showing there, too. Lovely wine, drinking very nicely now, but also quite clearly not N Rhone Syrah. The sense of fruit in this wine spoke of CA to me, but let's see where this wine goes in another 4-5 years. Having at last concluded the tour of the N Rhone, we now move Southward, stopping first in Provence. The 1998 Dom. Tempier Bandol 'La Tourtine' was a real treat, with a nose of grilled meat and an herbal overlay, but with a palate impression of sweet fruit, meat and a tincture of Brett. A fine expression of Mourvedre. From there, it was up the Rhone to the more familiar haunts of CdP. First stop was the '00 Dom. du Vieux Télégraphe, with a nose of red and black berries (marionberries, perhaps?), fine tannins and a palate impression that I likened to Mourvedre, probably indicative of brambly, dark fruit. Next up was the '98 Dom. de Pégaü Cuvée Laurence, with a typical nose of gamey cherry and a very fruity, mid-weight palate impression. In comparison to my recollection of the '98 Cuvée Réservée, this was a lighter but comparably fruity wine, less wood tannic than the few other Laurences I've had. Finally, the '99 Dom. de Pégaü Cuvée Réservée, another of my contributions, had a nose of raspberry and a hint of Brett, smooth, medium bodied and fruity with an herbal side to it. At this point, both I and the evening were winding down so it was time to take stock of the sweet wines that had been opened. As soon as I alight at the table, I have a glass of the '97 Godineau Bonnezaux pressed into my hands. From a meter away, I get the unmistakable botrytis mix of apricot and bergamot that dominates its nose, and find an intense apricot taste on the palate as well. Intensely sweet, it has enough acid not to feel cloying but still hits you like a sledgehammer. Next on the agenda was a '97 Dom. des Baumard Coteau du Layon, which struck me with an oxidized nose and caramel-like flavors on the palate. I wasn't getting much Chenin fruit in this and, after talking for a minute or two with Mike Lawton, I began to smell canned asparagus. From there it was on to the little bottle of 2005 Stéphane Tissot Audace Passerillé rouge, a dessert Poulsard from the Arbois, and what an odd duck it is: herbal, raisiny nose and concentrated, intense fruit on the palate with a sense of... Balsamic vinegar? Another fascinating Garagiste purchase from Tim Thomas. Next up was the '86 Dom. du Mas Blanc Banyuls (was there a vineyard designation on this?), which smelled to me of stewed fruit and tasted Port-like and hot. Alas, the bottle of '96 Huet Clos du Bourg Moëlleux 1er Trie that I'd brought for this moment proved to be badly corked, so I finished off the event with a taste of the '95 Chapoutier Vin de Paille, which smelled of caramel and tasted of botrytis and caramel. And so I trotted off to bed, only to be called back by Mark Criden to take claim of my Dressner wines that Kim had thoughtfully lugged down from Michigan, leaving the hard-core remnants to finish off what they could and leave the rest for Kim's vinegar crocks. A fine end to a great weekend of food, wine and friends, all in the chilly confines of Rossford, OH. See you next year in Toledo! Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net |
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Mike Tommasi wrote:
>> From there, I >> moved on to the '06 Dr. Frank Rkatsiteli, which by comparison is >> mineral-tinged and floral in the nose with a light, petillant feel to >> it. > > Is it Dr. Frank's wine made from Rkatsiteli grapes, or is his name > Rkatsiteli? Oh, you nitpicker. It's the only Rkatsiteli made in the US that I know of. Everyone who's had this wine has basically the same reaction: fun wine! Not one for cellar aging, but just great for drinking now. >> To round >> out the white wine experience, I next turned to two Marc Angeli wines, >> the '04 La Lune and the '04 Fouchardes, both of which were dark yellow >> and showed little to me beyond a strong oxidative note. Perhaps I'm too >> sensitive to oxidative smells to get beyond them. > > This is one winery whose wines I really would like to taste one day. > Have not had the occasion yet. > I actually had the '04 La Lune about 3 years ago, and it was a lovely wine back then. I didn't see what this bottle was sealed under, but from the rapid progression to oxidation, I wonder if it might not be under fake cork? > Nice Rhone lineup too... Yeah, this event tends to bring out some really fine Syrahs from the N Rhone. I actually brought along a '00 Voge Cornas VV, but didn't open it as there were just so many wines already out. It's kind of like going to the Marché in Ampuis, except that I don't have to go as far ;-) > Nice, and with 1998 you are lucky as many wines from that period were > not up to Tempier standards, with lots of funny bottles. I had dinner > with Lulu Peyraud two nights ago, she is in fine form, much like the > Tempier wines from this millennium... Wow. Lulu ain't no spring chicken these days. Glad to hear that she's doing well, though. And I was curious to see what a late '90s Tempier would be like and was pleased with what I got. > > Nice lineup Mark. Wish I had been there > Me, too, Mike. Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net |
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On Mar 6, 9:15*am, Mark Lipton > wrote:
> Mike Tommasi wrote: > >> From there, I > >> moved on to the '06 Dr. Frank Rkatsiteli, which by comparison is > >> mineral-tinged and floral in the nose with a light, petillant feel to > >> it. * > > > Is it Dr. Frank's wine made from Rkatsiteli grapes, or is his name > > Rkatsiteli? > > Oh, you nitpicker. *It's the only Rkatsiteli made in the US that I know > of. *Everyone who's had this wine has basically the same reaction: fun > wine! *Not one for cellar aging, but just great for drinking now. I had the 06 Rakatsiteli from Dr. Frank in March 08 and reported TNs here. I will quote them below: __________________________________________________ ________ Dr. Frank, who came from eastern Europe, found out how to grow many European grapes in the eastern US. He used some techniques he knew from areas of eastern Europe that had very cold winters. He found one main problem was the root stock used for the graft. In the past, attempts to grow European grapes in the northern US usually resulted in the death of the vines very soon because of the very low winter temperatures.He established a vineyard in the Finger Lakes region of NY many years ago which has grown greatly. Dr Frank and then a son ran the vineyard. His grandson now runs the vineyard. Frank has a rather detailed site at http://www.drfrankwines.com/ . Thus I will not repeat a lot of detail here. The wines are now sold in many states and a state distributor list is given. Also direct sales are possible in many states with the exception of the usual suspects. Information about visits, tastings, etc is given. Dr. Frank introduced the Rkatsiteli grape to the US. It comes from the slopes of Mt. Ararat in eastern Europe. The Rkatsiteli 2006 is very light yellow and is ready to drink. It is well balanced, even when quite young. I don't know if it would age well, but unlike many Rieslings, it does not seem to require age to smooth out initial harshness. It has a very fruity, intense, and complex bouquet and taste, even more so than most Rieslings. This is a very unique wine that would not be mistaken for many other wines. Riesling might be the best comparison, but that is a bit misleading. The fruit reminds me more of mixed melons with perhaps hints of tropical fruits than of the apricot and peach notes of many Rieslings. Unlike many Rieslings, I detect no petrol character. Then there is something floral that gives a hint of some exotic perfume made up of many components. The wine, although very intense in bouquet and taste, is not at all heavy in body. There is enough of very clean acidity to balance and just a bit of residual sugar. Some have suggested that this wine is a good match for some Asian food such as Chinese and perhaps is a better match than Riesling. It will stand up to more highly seasoned, sometimes slightly sweet, Asian food that is overpowering for a Riesling. Of course it would not stand up well to a dish loaded with hot pepper or swimming in some of the very aromatic fish sauces. __________________________________________________ ____________ |
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I'll read this closer later, nice writeup, but some quick thoughts:
'07 Dönnhoff Estate Riesling I've really enjoyed this '04 Bellivère Coteau du Loir Vieilles Vignes Eparses I really liked the '04 Effraie. Both the '05 Eparses and Effraie were DRAMATICALLY sweeter, good but in different style '64 Marchese di Barolo Barolo I think the fault might be more producer than getting there late '95 Cappellano 'Otin Fiori' Barolo Jealous! '99 Jamet Cote-Rotie '98 Allemand Cornas Reynard '99 Allemand Cornas Chaillot, '99 Gilles-Robin Crozes-Hermitage Cuvée Alberic Bouvet '85 Chave Hermitage '96 Ogier Côte-Rôtie, '99 Texier Hermitage, 97 Edmunds St. John Syrah Fenaughty '01 Edmunds St. John Syrah 'Wylie-Fenaughty' Wow, REALLY jealous I never really get that asparagus think some get in Baumard |
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